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I'm not as aggressive a rider as you given your travel and DH choice, but I do feel the 36E+ doesn't take advantage of the travel it already has on big square-edge roots and rock hits, and at the same time also isn't great at sucking up the small trail noise/chatter to keep the wheel planted...

@photocycycler - What did you end up getting? I've got the same bike (Decoy29) and have a 38-factory on eternal backorder, but I'm thinking of canceling and sticking a Smashpot in my YT OE 36E+. Fox 36 chassis definitely flexes a bit, (plenty of back-flex under braking but that could be...

That's interesting - I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum for 36E+ tuning and ended up adding air and removing volume spacers (on advice of ShockWiz tuning recs.). I almost never bottom out...usually some 10-20mm left in travel depending on the trails and if I'm solo or w/ analog buddies...

Really?? That seems so counterintuitive that they'd choose softer on a heavier chassis that's presumably going faster (on avg.). Was that the Fox tech support folks? They wouldn't tell me details. If so, I'd choose the softer E+ version every time - you can always add compression it seems...

Yuppers

Everyone laughs about "E-bike" rated lube, seats, grips, valve-caps and tire levers.....who doesn't enjoy a good chuckle at eMTB Marketing Gone Wild?? I've been conversing with a *very* helpful and patient Tech Support rep from Fox, but no matter what fork I seem to discuss, they seem to have a...

I've never heard of them! Dig the purple coil though. I cannot make sense of this chart of theirs, but I like the idea of the semi-custom tunability. A Y-axis label would be nice. I would assume it's a damping graph but I'd want the curve to look the opposite if it's damping force. i.e. more...

I have a Decoy29 with stock Fox 36E+ (34 internals) w/ 150mm travel and looking for something a bit more supple. Seems like the 36E is a dead-end for upgrading. The Z1 Coil is a sweet deal at $780 and *in stock* now. I already have a Fox 38 (non-E) on order/backordered indefinitely, may be...

@stressballsteve - Linear spring is fine...maybe even preferable. The Decoy frame design very progressive (rising) rate leverage ratio (LR). The Decoy certainly doesn't require a progressive spring - last thing you need is even *more* progressivity on this frame. It's essentially the same...

@carlbiker - I've not ridden a Bosch, so I can't comment. But I weigh 75 lbs *more* than you, with a weaker 70Nm Shimano motor. I have chronic L4/L5, L5/S1 sciatica issues too since early 2000s, never got surgery. I've got a very small stripe of dead nerve down the lateral side of my leg...

@carlbiker - M10 is still backordered, ETA unknown other than "July", which I'm skeptical of given that it's nearly July. Unfortunately, I won't be able to compare vs. my full-fat Decoy since the bike is for my wife (Small). I might be able to swing a leg and get an idea, but it won't be on...

I've heard that alloy frames these days can rival carbon for weight. On an e-bike especially I'd think the weight savings is negligible and less important than frame design/suspension/proper sizing, etc. That said, there's no getting around the natural damping properties of carbon - it is a...

RE: For info on bike frame design progressivity, see YT Channel andrextr. He evaluates several mfgs frames for such things, and other metrics like pedal efficiency, anti-bob/squat. Andrextr probably does the best job explaining the concept (in my opinion).

@Neeko - You are correct that not all suspension designs are optimized for coil shocks. Standard coils are linear springs by nature and may require a progressive (rising rate) leverage ratio frame to avoid blowing through too much travel and bottoming out. I'm going to assume you're talking...

Parts are scarce period. Whether OE factory or aftermarket it’s all a long wait time unless you get really lucky

I went through the M10 vs. M20 exercise too and ended up on the M10 since it's a bargain with the upgraded parts sold at market value and the bike is already very expensive. Orbea isn't marking up the parts and the list is substantial between the two compared to other manufacturers who change a...

Looks like they downgraded the Decoy29 version from the DPX2 to DPS on the shock. No piggyback reservoir to show off anymore.:cool: Wonder why? Other than the obvious cost-savings, I assume the new Float X must be too hard to source right now and DPX2 may be out of production, not sure. They...

@coloktm - I've been writing with Fox tech support guys and when I asked them about differences between 38 and 38E, he said "talk to your local bike shop". Thanks a lot Fox! Do you know if both Rebound and Compression damping are different or just Compression damping? I would think only...

@yourgrace - Thanks for the reply. I did see your thread and looked that over before making any decisions. I've ended up putting in a pre-order for Fox38 160mm. We'll see how long that takes to materialize! YT wasn't much help in 'suggesting' anything due to liability I'm sure (lack of...

@Endoguru That’s great to hear that Avalanche wins return business. what are you running up front? Any customization?