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They still have the Vivid air or coil. Cane Creek still makes them. But You are right, this is a somewhat outdated, non-metric size not really common any more. Fox I didn’t check…

My M510 provides more the 700 W peak power with full battery at 14 Amp firmware. I monitored up to 740 W. This is quite a difference to M820…

We had that discussion earlier in this thread. If You want to overstroke the frame, recommendation would be a 216x63 shock. You can go Mullet on the rear and / or use offset bushings to finetune the geo. If You can use the full 63 mm stoke, You will get appr. 180+ mm rear travel.

But this also means, bigger is better in regards of Wh to weight ratio of the overall battery.

360 Wh is 10S2P = 20 x 21700 cell @ 70 g each. 1.4kg for the cells, 0,4kg for the rest. Seams feasible..

720 Wh is 10S4P (40 pcs) of 21700 cells at 70g per cell. Means 2.8kg for the cells only. Plus appr. 500 g for the housing, BMS etc., so appr. 3,3 kg for the battery at minimum. The 410 Wh battery weight is given by Bafang, 2,6kg according to workbook 2023.

Nothing to add!

The 720 Wh is not a Bafang battery for my understanding. It’s a specific battery designed to fit into the CEF50 frame. The question is, if the battery supports CAN communication with the Bafang components. My E10 has a battery not supporting the CAN communication, so some details like charging...

This is a picture of the 720 Wh battery. Completely different from the Bafang 410 Wh…

This is the Bafang BT F014 as claimed as alternative to the 720 Wh battery. Looks completely different.

I start to believe Your motor problems are caused by hardware issues. My motor runs flawless (with really minor exemptions) since April now, same revision / controller You have.

Would be interesting to know if the updated controller could be purchased separately…

Faster then me 😂

I didn’t order yet. May be @TCFlowClyde can answer that?

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It’s not a showstopper for me. I just hate it 😂

It will reduce the trail about 7 mm with no effect on the head angle if fork length stays the same. I doubt that anyone will be able to notice the difference.

But only in case You have a flip chip to adjust rear chainstay length…

Shoud be. I can select 3 - 5 - 9 but using the DP-C241 display

This looks like someone knows how to build a decent enduro bike! Enjoy mate!