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    First ride...shock setup questions

    You may or may not have to change air pressure when you add or remove tokens. Sag is unrelated to the tokens completely. You always set sag first...that base psi will determine roughly where your rebound settings are. Tokens are literally the last thing in the setup process. And because they do...
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    First ride...shock setup questions

    Yep or you can read and watch vids FROM the manufacturers...like the Fox videos and their setup guides. Or the vids from Vorsprung, one of the most well know and respected suspension tuners. The internet is, indeed full of crap, but also a great resource.
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    First ride...shock setup questions

    Of course the shock won't blow at 301...do you have any idea what the pressures look while riding? You are really committed to using tokens as a way to achieve sag...just to check myself last night I read and watched every video I could and no one, not a single person mentioned your idea and...
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    First ride...shock setup questions

    I sure hope not...gonna try again from scratch tonight...even gonna take the shock out to see if something is binding in the linkage. Was kinda hoping for more data from Decoy owners to what their riding weight is vs. their shock psi.
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    ASSIST SETTINGS

    I use an App called STEPS Unlocker...on a Droid...it has an actual percentage of assist as well torque values that can be changed within each mode. You can easily click a button and back to default. You can create profiles as well and switch between to see which assist settings you prefer.
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    First ride...shock setup questions

    Yep...this is SOP since negative chambers were a thing in air suspension. I have never been able to hear the air pressure equalize...but I still do this procedure on all recent bikes. I wonder if the orifice is clogged and the air chamber is not equalizing??? The shock does not top out, but at...
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    First ride...shock setup questions

    While tokens decrease volume and therefore increase pressure at the same amount of travel...tokens are NOT the way to set sag. There is not a single person that will say to add tokens to change the ride height (which is what sag is) of a suspension. If you know of someone citing to do so please...
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    First ride...shock setup questions

    I'm pretty sure tokens won't change sag. Tokens really only function in the deeper part of the stroke and increase the rate that pressure increases as the shock compresses. Before making any other adjustment...and I mean any...the base sag has to be set...token are several steps down the road.
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    First ride...shock setup questions

    I'm doing both and they are very close to one another. I default to the actual measurement though and use that as my final check. Yes, Fox X2 Factory
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    First ride...shock setup questions

    Yeah...I thought about the additional bike weight...when I take my riding weight and add to it the difference between my ebike and non ebike it's another 30lbs...so 250 psi seems reasonable if I look at that way. But even at 250psi my sag is still way off. And you're right...that much pressure...
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    First ride...shock setup questions

    Yeah...super generic stuff...but I'm sure helpful to some. I think my questions may be more Decoy specific.
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    First ride...shock setup questions

    SO, I got my bike on Friday, installed MOST of the Invisframe and installed my CushCore front and rear. Made my personal setups changes. And tried to get the bike to shift into 11th...I think the freehub needs a .5 mm spacer...but more on that as it sorts itself out. Suspension setup...now...
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    Just ordered my Decoy...3 weeks from delivery (so they say)

    Well that was way more painful than it needed to be. Went to pick up the bike today...took 2 hours. 3 different guys sorta cycled through helping me and getting me out the door. Bike was not test ridden for sure as it won’t shift into smallest cog...they say it’s not hitting the limit...
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    Just ordered my Decoy...3 weeks from delivery (so they say)

    Picking mine up today...stoked. I'm gonna put my invisiframe on tonight and swapping my seat. Got new grips and cushcore as well. Glad to hear the brakes are good...or great with 220s. I'm an shimano brake fan...but I'm trying to be open minded.
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    Just ordered my Decoy...3 weeks from delivery (so they say)

    I'm not really a ask for a supervisor guy...if they train the people right, as I assume they do, then the answer will be the same. Once I get to a point my mind is a toggle switch...the lever flips and I'm done with that company...I'll get my money back if it comes to that. I built into my time...
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    Just ordered my Decoy...3 weeks from delivery (so they say)

    Well...I did exactly what they said to do...call them Tues and they’d know for sure. So I did, and guess what, they don’t know if my bike is here or not. YT...if you are listening to us...please for the love of god train your employees to not do stuff like this. If you tell me to call on a...
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    Just ordered my Decoy...3 weeks from delivery (so they say)

    So, I had issues with my hands and arms too...I really think it's the fact that on an Ebike you just never stop, ever. Even on the climbs I was pushing it pretty hard, harder than normal and my hands had no time to relax. I usually bring my thumbs over the top of the grips, or grab the end of...
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    Just ordered my Decoy...3 weeks from delivery (so they say)

    Oh, I didn't take it as rubbing it in...I'm just jealous in a good way. Stoked to get my bike and in the end it's better I didn't get it last weekend as I was really sick and I'm sure I would have done something stupid and ridden it. Although I do have Cushcore and an Ivisiframe kit to install...
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    Just ordered my Decoy...3 weeks from delivery (so they say)

    I think we should do a SoCal Decoy get together sometime...maybe when its cooler.
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