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    Actual Rise Weights??

    Remember that most quoted bike weights are without pedals. So they *can* be accurate, they're just leaving a huge chunk of weight out. For the M-LTD in particular some other cheats: It has lame foam grips The front Rekon is absurdly light (780g) for a 2.6" tire; but it's a terrible front tire...
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    Watch out for e*thirteen cranks!

    I wouldn't go that far. If you go Spesh you'll be replacing motors :) I'm super impressed with the H-series bikes, they are pretty insanely good. The Levo/Kenevo SL is kind of a joke in comparison. My LBS has SL's for sale 15% off and 6 or 7 of them sitting there going no where. Spesh NEVER goes...
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    Watch out for e*thirteen cranks!

    Ok that's fair. I don't think the crank design has changed at all though, just the torque spec and longer preload caps. I have those as well.
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    Shimano EP8 Spindle Failures and People getting injured. Where to now?

    Interesting little tidbit included with the FC-EM900 cranks I just installed: Kinda strange it's specific to the non-drive side...
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    Shimano EP8 Spindle Failures and People getting injured. Where to now?

    I asked Orbea about official docs, they don't have it yet but here's what they sent:
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    Watch out for e*thirteen cranks!

    I asked Orbea about official docs, they don't have it yet but here's what they sent:
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    Shimano EP8 Spindle Failures and People getting injured. Where to now?

    Wait, so e*thirteen issues a TSB saying you need to increase the torque when installing the cranks (technically they just eliminated the low end of the range, but still), and Orbea says the torque is too high? 🤷‍♂️
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    Watch out for e*thirteen cranks!

    There is no "updated crank". There's just (supposedly) and updated procedure for installing the crank.
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    Shimano EP8 Spindle Failures and People getting injured. Where to now?

    You made me realize something else. The portion of the spindle where the splines end, on the inside, is slightly tapered. If you were to over tighten the preload cap, that would cause the crank to expand and potentially move up onto this unsplined area. This is likely why Shimano uses a plastic...
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    Shimano EP8 Spindle Failures and People getting injured. Where to now?

    I almost wonder if it was a typo... EDIT: Google says it might mean "peak-to-average ratio"... (not that this helps)
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    Watch out for e*thirteen cranks!

    I contacted Orbea about my wife's H30, which comes with e*thirteen aluminum cranks. This is what they had to say: I really can't believe Orbea hasn't made public documentation for this. This is a safety issue, not a situation for messing around. My dealer is over an hour away, I'm not going...
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    Shimano EP8 Spindle Failures and People getting injured. Where to now?

    I contacted Orbea about my wife's H30, which comes with e*thirteen aluminum cranks. This is what they had to say: I really can't believe Orbea hasn't made public documentation for this. This is a safety issue, not a situation for messing around. My dealer is over an hour away, I'm not going...
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    Shimano EP8 Spindle Failures and People getting injured. Where to now?

    Interesting summary. However you left out the part where Shimano said they know why the failures are happening, and the cause is the design of the e*thirteen cranks. I'm not saying I believe either side tbh. More than likely the real story is they're both at fault. But IMO you left out the most...
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    Cranks for EP8 motor

    Interesting recap and update: https://www.bikeradar.com/news/shimano-ep8-motor-bottom-bracket-spindle-failure/
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    Please Post Your Model In Your Subject RISE/WILD etc...

    You know what else is super annoying? All caps subject lines... 🤔 Anyway enough trolling :) The forum has a feature for this, just need @Rob Rides EMTB to enable it. Take a look at the Specialized forum for example this is what you get when you start a new post:
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    Cranks for EP8 motor

    You've misunderstood my post (assuming you were replying to me). I'm not saying the preload cap should hold the crank on. But the torque spec for the caps is very low and the tolerance between the crank and shaft is very tight. It's pretty easy to think your cranks are all the way on when...
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    Cranks for EP8 motor

    Another possible factor is the preload cap torque is too low for this kind of interface. It's easy to be tricked into thinking the crank is all the way on when it's not. I just dropped my wife's motor tonight (Rise H30 with e*thirteen aluminum cranks). During reassembly I made sure to give the...
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    Cranks for EP8 motor

    Are they replacement cranks or originals? I think this is an important distinction. If the original (e.g. e*thirteen) cranks compromised the spindle, the replacement won't matter.
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    Cranks for EP8 motor

    Orbea has issued a recall for the e*thirteen carbon cranks. On my M-LTD they are replacing with free XTR cranks. Looks like e*thirteen is trying to blame it on Shimano. I'm sure Shimano is trying to blame e*thirteen. Unfortunately we're stuck in the middle :(
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    STEPS EP8/e*Thirteen Lockring Tool

    https://www.ethirteen.com/products/e-spec-direct-mount-chainring?variant=29737251274855 You can also get a STEPS-compatible spider and run pretty much any chainring you want.
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