Santa Cruz Vala!
Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 2023/4/5/6 Rumours...
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Lovely bike. Massive SC fan here having owned a E-Heckler for the last 4 years but the 600wh battery put me off.
I ended up ordering a Crestline frame, got tired of waiting on Spesh to even announce anything.
Gen4/4B? Hmmm....
Santa Cruz Vala, interested to see what other manufactures are doing but would never buy a Specialed they are more of a big box store brand and I'm not into that.
Neverbeentomoab
Active member
How are you enjoying the vala? If I don’t get a gen 4 levo the vala or the Orbea wild are my top choices
They have great selection at Walmart near me!!
Rando_12345
Well-known member
Come on guys, don't leak pictures of the gen4 and especially not the 4B!
Keep those nasty pics of the 844Wh batteries to yourselves, delete those snaps of the 110Nm motor, no technical drawings of the 150mm and 170mm rear linkage! Also no videos of the s-works being weighed on scale that reads 20.6kg! Try to just forget about the 300Wh extender. You can say the geo numbers, but they need to be jumbled up, like a 63.2 degree reach, or a 445mm seattube angle.
Whatever you do, don't make the mods come back and confirm/drop more info for us!
Rando_12345
Well-known member
Bought a Cube one77, I wasn't really going to get the Levo at launch unless they announced the best bike ever (could happen!) and they had a well specced 6-7k version (won't happen). So I got a hold-over bike for 2025 and we'll aim for a dream bike in 2026.
dfkenevo
Active member
Since 2018 I owned the 1st Gen Kenevo, I switched to a Levo then to a Kenevo SL and back to full power Levo gen 3. I didn’t want to wait and I wanted something different so I ordered a Crestline S180!!!
I can’t wait to get it.
Crestline also known as an over priced Santa Cruz bullet. Fun fact, you know why Santa Cruz went to a FRS suspension design on the vala? Because the drive units size make it impossible to put the lower link low enough to prevent brake jack in a VPP design. Knowing this makes you wonder why so many riders cream their baggies for the VPP design on the Crestline. Look at a Bronson or Megatower lower link location, on an e bike, that pivot in inside the drive unit. When all is said and done, there are really only three suspension designs that work for e bikes, FRS , DW links and high pivots with an idler.
Overpriced ? Their kits are actually inline with most bikes in the market ,even more so if you consider they are such a small brand.
They offer Bosch gen 5 with all battery options (removable),top tube screen,high quality frame,good suspension design,modular frame with many travel options and 29 or Mullet ...
If anything,SC should have made a Crestline and not the other way around
The Valla (And soon to be released Bullit) is a good bike but OH so boring...
i wish!
I got a canyon. Main thing for me was the sizing was spot on what I was looking for. Price was amazing…then battery gate two months later. It’s an amazing bike tho happy with it.
mrhaboobi
Member
Pivot shuttle am. Sold my gen 3 .. waited for gen 4 but gave up. The pivots an amazing bike and imo significantly better than the gen 3.
DuncanDoughnuts
Active member
My Vala arrives tomorrow hopefully.... Just cculd not wait for spec to get there shit together. IM sure the Gen 4 will be great. but that Vala just rode so well.... Can always fall back on my gen 3 if I want to fit in on a group ride.
@Ribinrobin boy, If you have a problem with my posts then say it, don't hide behind emojis like all todays keyboard warriors...
and good luck with the canyon and the issues their bikes have with frames cracking, paint chipping and batteries, might wana do some homework on their bikes and invest in a good fire extinguisher (given the recall on some of their electric stuff).
Obviously some people, with u including were offended by my post that was purely informational and that is how I also presented it with the intent to share information in the community(assorted chat - as obviously there was a lot of possible comparison in this thread already).
Well your multiple response was no different then the emojis you choose to use, but hey I understand there is always people with the inability to grasp a wider meaning of things in a group environment, feel sorry for those, usually a lack of education or low IQ tends to make people do stuff that doesn't provide any useful contribution to a community.
This thread is just like the Moderator mentioned, a fairytale...so keep dreaming and have a good day.
and good luck with the canyon and the issues their bikes have with frames cracking, paint chipping and batteries, might wana do some homework on their bikes and invest in a good fire extinguisher (given the recall on some of their electric stuff).
Obviously some people, with u including were offended by my post that was purely informational and that is how I also presented it with the intent to share information in the community(assorted chat - as obviously there was a lot of possible comparison in this thread already).
Well your multiple response was no different then the emojis you choose to use, but hey I understand there is always people with the inability to grasp a wider meaning of things in a group environment, feel sorry for those, usually a lack of education or low IQ tends to make people do stuff that doesn't provide any useful contribution to a community.
This thread is just like the Moderator mentioned, a fairytale...so keep dreaming and have a good day.
I went with Crestline mainly because I could get it as a frame only, I have enough spare parts to build a few bikes at this point.
Price wise, it was cheaper than any of the other frame only options.
I also wanted to wait for the GEN 4 but took too long. Went with one of the first Valas. Pretty cool and capable bike, I dont care about VPP or anything, it just needs to deliver and it does. Pretty good parts out of the box, of course not cheap. Battery could be bigger which is my only downside.
Gen 4 needs to be a real banger, then I would maybe think to change.
Gen 4 needs to be a real banger, then I would maybe think to change.
Needs to see a picture of the Crestline, not that I dislike my G3 but Crestline dream bike
I think the biggest selling point I heard about was a range extender that you could use instead of the main battery or with the battery. So you can either have a long distance bike or a lightweight bike.
I think I'd just prefer a small 400wh internal battery option for that purpose.
It’s being shipped to my dad’s house in the US, I won’t be back to visit until the end of May. I’ll probably be there for about a month so it’s going to be a while before I get it built up.
This is what I’m looking at doing with my new bike, 400wh internal with a 250wh extender. It was offered as an option but I ordered it without a battery as I’ll be flying with it back to the UK.
Overpriced ? Their kits are actually inline with most bikes in the market ,even more so if you consider they are such a small brand.
They offer Bosch gen 5 with all battery options (removable),top tube screen,high quality frame,good suspension design,modular frame with many travel options and 29 or Mullet ...
If anything,SC should have made a Crestline and not the other way around
The Valla (And soon to be released Bullit) is a good bike but OH so boring...
I like small boutique brands just as much as the next guy but with only 150 units I'd be worried about parts availability when shit breaks or if there a common failure point with the frames. Also the motor bulge on the Crestline is worse than the Levo and the down tube looks massive. I hope the new Levo looks more like the SL, no motor bulge or ugly shock stay. Santa Cruz knocked it out of the park with Vala, it's easily the best looking EMTB out right now.
