Levo Gen 3 Levo Gen 4 2023/4/5/6 Rumours...


David1960

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This is the bla bla bla thread ... so .........

Maybe the question is, will the gen4 give the same or more than a Bosch ? Or an Amflow ridden similarly .. ??

Who knows... ultimately, they must be similar, bosch EMTB still gives me the best as an average with peaks as I need them. There won't be any magic. We're all experienced enough by now to know there aren't any miracles.

I think for @David1960 , with average power of 82w ?!?!?!?!? if that's accurate then it pretty much won't make any difference what bike you're riding. You're not using the EMTB as an EMTB ? Maybe that's one for another thread.

EDIT : just noticed you have another thread :)
What should average power be on emtb then if using correctly. Not really sure what you mean when you say I am not using emtb as emtb. Really appreciate your replies. Thanks
 

Biano44

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Yes. But I am using turbo on my Bosch and emtb getting nearly 40 miles. Is efficiency of motor in amflow as good as Bosch

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My Amflow did 41miles, 1700ft elevation. My average power at 96w, in Eco/Auto and returned with 25% battery on Sunday.
This is comparable to a Levo G3 that was on the same ride. Both riders weigh about 100kg.

Though I should add, I’ve also done flat out rides using all the POWERS and only just managed 22miles.

It’s also worth noting that Eco is only a little less powerful than Boost on my old Shimano E8000 that was in my Heckler.
 

David1960

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My Amflow did 41miles, 1700ft elevation. My average power at 96w, in Eco/Auto and returned with 25% battery on Sunday.
This is comparable to a Levo G3 that was on the same ride. Both riders weigh about 100kg.

Though I should add, I’ve also done flat out rides using all the POWERS and only just managed 22miles.

It’s also worth noting that Eco is only a little less powerful than Boost on my old Shimano E8000 that was in my Heckler.
Thanks that’s very useful. I weigh 55 kilos- so that helps with mileage !!
 

gbcoke

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Be patient G4 will shock the industry.
When you systems like Bosch and Dji and bikes like Orbea Wild, nothing cant really "shock" the industry .
The new Levo will be up there and in some ways lead the market but there is no magic tech in there (as far as I understand).
 

Polar

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When you systems like Bosch and Dji and bikes like Orbea Wild, nothing cant really "shock" the industry .
The new Levo will be up there and in some ways lead the market but there is no magic tech in there (as far as I understand).
Amflow did shock the industry so why not?
 

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New things no one though was possible usually shock the industry at least I got shocked when AI and emoji got to the market both very usable and exciting.
None of that matters if you don’t release the damn thing in a timely manner. I along with a few others I know got tired of waiting and went with a different brand, most of my mates jumped on the Amflow train. If Spesh would have at least did a press release I imagine a few of them would have waited if it was worth it. I don’t know who their marketing manager is but they’ve really screwed the pooch in this IMO.
 

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None of that matters if you don’t release the damn thing in a timely manner. I along with a few others I know got tired of waiting and went with a different brand, most of my mates jumped on the Amflow train. If Spesh would have at least did a press release I imagine a few of them would have waited if it was worth it. I don’t know who their marketing manager is but they’ve really screwed the pooch in this IMO.

True! A simple photo of the concept for the new Levo would have been enough to convince many to wait instead of switching to other brands. I don't understand why they organized a video with EMBN at the end of August where nothing was revealed, only saying that the bike would be seen very soon—something that was repeated again in January by the same channel—only to keep exhausting potential buyers with an endless wait...
 

Polar

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None of that matters if you don’t release the damn thing in a timely manner. I along with a few others I know got tired of waiting and went with a different brand, most of my mates jumped on the Amflow train. If Spesh would have at least did a press release I imagine a few of them would have waited if it was worth it. I don’t know who their marketing manager is but they’ve really screwed the pooch in this IMO.
Did amflow give a press release? No, because it's about trade secrets, but I understand that people are tired of waiting.
 

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Did amflow give a press release? No, because it's about trade secrets, but I understand that people are tired of waiting.
DJI did a press release with the motor and said it was coming on their own bike, that’s far more than Spesh has done. It’s costing them sales though and will only get worse once people find out it’s wireless drivetrain only.
 

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None of that matters if you don’t release the damn thing in a timely manner. I along with a few others I know got tired of waiting and went with a different brand, most of my mates jumped on the Amflow train. If Spesh would have at least did a press release I imagine a few of them would have waited if it was worth it. I don’t know who their marketing manager is but they’ve really screwed the pooch in this IMO.

Timeliness depends on your own circumstances though doesn’t it, personally I’m not ready to buy a new bike anything, so they can take their own sweet time! 😂

I still enjoy riding my current EMTBs, see absolutely nothing that any new bike would bring to the party for my riding and routes, other than trail centre car park bragging rights…
 

sethimus

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DJI did a press release with the motor and said it was coming on their own bike, that’s far more than Spesh has done. It’s costing them sales though and will only get worse once people find out it’s wireless drivetrain only.
and releasing infos too early would cost them sales of the current model.
 

Polar

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I bet Specialized will continue to work with Brose but the question is what TQ and peak power will be in G4.
Fantic got a ebike with Brose motor at 90TQ and 720w peak power so is G4 gonna be even more powerful?
Yeah I guess so and new amazing software.
Specialized, Brose and SRAM has a delicious threesome.
 
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Biano44

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Releasing late costs sales of both G3 and G4 though doesn't it...? G3 is heavily discounted already. If it hasn't sold by now, will it ever?
Because Levo's have been on sale with heavy discounts for what 12 months? it devalues the brand. If they had G4 on at full price, v's G3 at the reduced price, the consumer can make their own choice and understand why a G3 is 'cheap'.
Doing it the way they have just makes the bikes look like they were priced wrong in the. 1st place.
 

RichMorr

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I bet Specialized will continue to work with Brose but the question is what TQ and peak power will be in G4.
Fantic got a ebike with Brose motor at 90TQ and 720w peak power so is G4 gonna be even more powerful?
Yeah I guess so and new amazing software.
I have just seen the same loam wolf video and I think they’ve made a mistake, as the bike has a removable 720 wh battery and no mention of 720w peak power in the Tech data

 

Polar

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Because Levo's have been on sale with heavy discounts for what 12 months? it devalues the brand. If they had G4 on at full price, v's G3 at the reduced price, the consumer can make their own choice and understand why a G3 is 'cheap'.
Doing it the way they have just makes the bikes look like they were priced wrong in the. 1st place.
Discount will be finished on G3 and G4 priced around 10% higer is a possibility.
 

Polar

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I have just seen the same loam wolf video and I think they’ve made a mistake, as the bike has a removable 720 wh battery and no mention of 720w peak power in the Tech data

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