SCHWARZWILD Bafang M820 with LCE 930 frame

JimLee-Lightcarbon

Lightcarbon
Apr 15, 2022
289
320
Amoy
I am so dying to see this. I really would like to see a lighter fat bike build, without the M620. Still haven't given up hope on that one.
A lighter motor and smaller battery should easily shave off 5kg of the current fat bike builds.
now have the fat EMTB carbon frame fit for M510/M560 and battery 840wh, but no frame fit for small battery
 

Mirkoser

Member
Jul 31, 2022
24
34
Northern Germany
Hi Karo. Nice. I realized my lc930 with 600wh as well. I designed special 3d printed cell holder for that . Could be very tight with 3x13 ;) but can fit I guess . I have 3x10 21700
I reached 18,6kg. Are you satisfied with the m820 regarding „power reaction/ startup angle“ . My impression is that it is not as quick as my m510 fc2 . I tuned it with besstpro to minimum startup angle but still not fully satisfied 🥲

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KaroKönig

Well-known member
Feb 10, 2021
234
505
Germany
Hi Karo. Nice. I realized my lc930 with 600wh as well. I designed special 3d printed cell holder for that . Could be very tight with 3x13 ;) but can fit I guess . I have 3x10 21700
I reached 18,6kg. Are you satisfied with the m820 regarding „power reaction/ startup angle“ . My impression is that it is not as quick as my m510 fc2 . I tuned it with besstpro to minimum startup angle but still not fully satisfied 🥲

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Nice battery design. I can't see any difference to the M 510 in terms of power reaktion. However, I also have the 43V version.
 

JimLee-Lightcarbon

Lightcarbon
Apr 15, 2022
289
320
Amoy
Nice battery design. I can't see any difference to the M 510 in terms of power reaktion. However, I also have the 43V version.

Hi Karo. Nice. I realized my lc930 with 600wh as well. I designed special 3d printed cell holder for that . Could be very tight with 3x13 ;) but can fit I guess . I have 3x10 21700
I reached 18,6kg. Are you satisfied with the m820 regarding „power reaction/ startup angle“ . My impression is that it is not as quick as my m510 fc2 . I tuned it with besstpro to minimum startup angle but still not fully satisfied 🥲

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Very clean design for cells,
More photos please show it.
the bafang company said the same power output,
 

Mirkoser

Member
Jul 31, 2022
24
34
Northern Germany
Sorry haven’t made more photos of the finished battery. I used special high voltage heat shrink to protect the battery and it sits very tight in the frame without any movement. Additionally I locked it with plastic screws through the bottle holder threads
 

Ktronik

New Member
Jan 15, 2024
55
29
Australia
Amazing!!

I am a bit confused, you used a 48v battery and 48v motor flashed w 43v firmware?? was there a issue w 48v motor and battery???
 

KaroKönig

Well-known member
Feb 10, 2021
234
505
Germany
Amazing!!

I am a bit confused, you used a 48v battery and 48v motor flashed w 43v firmware?? was there a issue w 48v motor and battery???
The M 820 is currently only available in 36V and 43V versions. My motor is originally a 36V which my salesman flashed for me with the 43v software on request. I only use the 48V battery to get a little more power out of the motor.
 

Ktronik

New Member
Jan 15, 2024
55
29
Australia
The M 820 is currently only available in 36V and 43V versions. My motor is originally a 36V which my salesman flashed for me with the 43v software on request. I only use the 48V battery to get a little more power out of the motor.
Ahh, I see, I am told there is now a 48v firmware...
 
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Verdo07

New Member
Oct 22, 2023
26
9
Italia
L'ho visto anch'io, ma probabilmente è per i modelli E-road.
Pubblica nel thread 'Bafang m820' due firmware...uno e-rod e uno e-mtb...
 
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Freda

Active member
Feb 5, 2023
157
136
Vaasa
Hi. How do you glue the cells? (what is the name of the drug?) is the glue flexible or hard? and how tightly does the glue stick to the cell? Greetings
I used Wurth polymer glue, it can take heat up to +90 degrees celsius. I just put glue in between and checked the angle with model i made on paper. It sticks very well, but can surely be cut if needed, it stays flexible. It needs to be flexible not to brake from vibrations.
I guess you can use any heat resistant glue that stays flexible.
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Radolf

New Member
May 9, 2024
30
36
Poland
Thanks for the info. In the meantime, I bought and used Loctite 5970, which has excellent adhesion and, according to the safety data sheet, is resistant to vibrations, and fortunately I am already finishing the construction of the package :)

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Freda

Active member
Feb 5, 2023
157
136
Vaasa
Oh, sorry for late answer! That looks good, very similar to what I did. I actually ordered new cells last week. I will build a ~500Wh battery from 18650 cells and a small extender.
 

stesie1

New Member
Jul 24, 2024
2
0
Herzebrock-Clarholz
Hallöchen, baue zurzeit ein Light Carbon LCE 28 mit Bafang M620 zusammen! Den Umbau mit dem Speedsensor und Bremsscheibe würde ich auch gerne machen! Woher hast du den speedsensor ! habe schon stundenlang gesucht! Gibt es irgendwas Speziales, beim Umbau zu beachten? Vielen Dank für deine Unterstützung! Gruß Stefan
 

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