Other Trek Slash-e Rumors

[mitea]

My LBS told me there will be a new Trek Ebike by the end of the month. He didnt tell me which but from our conversation i got to know its not a new rail. So did Trek maybe develop a Slash-e equipped with a TQ-HPR50? Did you hear/see anything.

I know of at least one youtuber that got a bike box this week and since then his social channels are pretry quiet. Else he is posting daily. But I guess he is testing and filming seceretly somewhere the new bike.

 

[irie]

My money is on eSlash with the Bosch SX motor.

Other - Will Trek use the new Bosch SX in an existing or new Bike?

 

[Four Flusher]

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My money is on eSlash with the Bosch SX motor.

Other - Will Trek use the new Bosch SX in an existing or new Bike?

I'm in

 

[Emailsucks98]

I'm not really feeling the Bosch. Louder and bulkier than the TQ, it has more power so you need the bigger battery or the range would suffer?

I'm in the camp that's very happy with the Fuel EXe/TQ. Especially at these eBike prices, hoping to get 2-3 seasons out of it.
But I have pondered a LT version- 160mm, 63.5 HT with a 170 fork, 440 stays. separate flip chip and adjustable headset please. Keep the TQ motor and removable battery.

 

[irie]

I'm not really feeling the Bosch. Louder and bulkier than the TQ, it has more power so you need the bigger battery or the range would suffer?

I'm in the camp that's very happy with the Fuel EXe/TQ. Especially at these eBike prices, hoping to get 2-3 seasons out of it.
But I have pondered a LT version- 160mm, 63.5 HT with a 170 fork, 440 stays. separate flip chip and adjustable headset please. Keep the TQ motor and removable battery.

Everything is a compromise. You may opt for one, others for another. Simples.

 

[mitea]

Chances are high its a light emtb since a trek ambassador did hike a bike with it to hörnli hut at mt. Matterhorn in switzerland. See his insta story with censored bike

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[mitea]

Listened to The Future of eBike Technology? – TQ Drives

In the last quarter (at 47:42 min ) Anna from TQ hinted that 12. July marks the anniversairy of the TQ HPR-50 (Big launch of HPR 50 with Trek Fuel exe) and that one year after that date and a few weeks later their will be another big thing announced. Anna "its gonna get really exciting again".

This makes me still thinking its possible we will get the second Trek MTB using a TQ Motor. We now are a few weeks later than 12.July so maybe we know more in just some days. Maybe even a complete new drivetrain if they compare the launch of it to the launch of the HPR 50

 

[mitea]

Maybe tomorrow...

 

[mrhaboobi]

will tomorrow ever come? id love a slash shaped EXE style mid range SL ebike..

 

[mitea]

will tomorrow ever come? id love a slash shaped EXE style mid range SL ebike..

if tomorrow never comes...


my LBS hinted me the date of the new analog slash. I was misinterpreting it for the Slash-E thats why I wrote tomorrow. The LBS usually only sells Ebikes. Don't know why he got the info about the analog slash and told me there will be a new bike sorry guys

 

[Foxy87]

You guys do realize the bike you were talking about was the new aluminium Fuel Exe (which Sandro Schmid was carrying on his shoulders in the pic) right? AFAIK there is no E slash coming... It will rather be an updated Rail.

 

[mitea]

You guys do realize the bike you were talking about was the new aluminium Fuel Exe (which Sandro Schmid was carrying on his shoulders in the pic) right? AFAIK there is no E slash coming... It will rather be an updated Rail.

Why do you think its the alu fuel exe. The bike was already released at the time. So no need to hide it

 

[Foxy87]

True, my bad, sorry.

I for one will probably get a fuel exe next year.

 

[mitea]

True, my bad, sorry.

I for one will probably get a fuel exe next year.

I guess it was the new slash with high pivot he was carrying. I hopw he will release his ride.ch video soon so we will know.

 

[Northman57]

So it is coming very very soon! TQ and 580wh battery

 

[windfed]

pics taken from italian Forum.

 

[Paulquattro]

New Bikes from any manufacturer in general are a bit like phones these day
They nearly all look the same but we are wanting better electronics , so we are told anyway

 

[mrhaboobi]

Well pretty disappointed if its a tq 50nm. Why bother. The exe fills that slot. Better to have added a stronger motor

 

[Marshall Willanholly]

You guys do realize the bike you were talking about was the new aluminium Fuel Exe (which Sandro Schmid was carrying on his shoulders in the pic) right? AFAIK there is no E slash coming... It will rather be an updated Rail.

Those pics windfed posted sure look like a Slash-e with a TQ motor and 580Wh battery.

I guess we’ll know for sure on the 26th.

 

[Ribinrobin]

i dont think this is bad shout by trek. Interested how that idealer goes though..didnt lew bruchan have a load of issues with it dropping chains everywhere

 

[Miket775]

i dont think this is bad shout by trek. Interested how that idealer goes though..didnt lew bruchan have a load of issues with it dropping chains everywhere

His bike was missing spacers on the lower guide - Trek did put out a release for owners to get the spacers fitted and reviews after showed this issue was fixed. Then again he hasn't a good reputation for a few bikes he had over the last couple of years

 

[jgf]

Well pretty disappointed if its a tq 50nm. Why bother. The exe fills that slot. Better to have added a stronger motor

I think the TQ50 still has a place because no other motor comes close to its ride profile... that's the only reason I am still considering a Fuel...

They are in a race however to get a more powerful motor out before the other makers figure out how to make a quiet and more natural feeling motor...

 

[irie]

Just depends what you want.

Have a 2022 Trek Rail 5 (alloy) which is extensively modified to make it exactly the way I want ... except that instead of 25kg I want 22kg or less. And I don't want carbon which wouldn't survive being frequently crashed. But I can get up steeps really easy but still have to wait or just go slow for my regular riding buddy on his Trek Fuel EXe to catch up.

Low power motors and relatively small batteries are nothing more than compromises which will pass as motors and especially batteries become lighter (ie higher energy density per kilo).

 

[George_KSL]

Low power motors and relatively small batteries are nothing more than compromises which will pass as motors and especially batteries become lighter (ie higher energy density per kilo).

Right now it looks like it could go either way imho, as the same progress could minimize weight penalty of SL-style ebikes even further towards normal bikes.

I really hope all the choices stay on market esp. since batteries are modular.

 

[Emailsucks98]

Just depends what you want.

Low power motors and relatively small batteries are nothing more than compromises

The TQ HPR-50 is still by far the quietest, smallest form factor, and has a much better display than the Fazua or Bosch SL motors. Removable battery is a nice trick too. Makes a lot of sense on a bike that could see bike park use. I just removed my TQ battery for 2 days at sun peaks- but I can also easily carry a second battery for 720wh total.

I’m impressed with the Bosch SX motor on my partners bike, but it is not really a game changer. Just a different feature set.

 

[mrhaboobi]

I see benefit in the slash E having a removeable battery for that exact reason, could be used at the park as a non e-bike, ( and perhaps id consider upgrading my analogue slash in that scenario ), but the weak TQ motor means taking the bike up decent ascents to be able to do the gnarly downhill when not at a bike park ( with lift etc ) makes its a poor option. Given some of the very recent announcements like the DJI motor id kinda see a world where 75- 85NM becomes the base light weight power and beyond that are full fats TQ Motor in slash E is under powered IMO

The TQ HPR-50 is still by far the quietest, smallest form factor, and has a much better display than the Fazua or Bosch SL motors. Removable battery is a nice trick too. Makes a lot of sense on a bike that could see bike park use. I just removed my TQ battery for 2 days at sun peaks- but I can also easily carry a second battery for 720wh total.

I’m impressed with the Bosch SX motor on my partners bike, but it is not really a game changer. Just a different feature set.

 

[fredmotokx]

Any weight figures? With the rumoured 580wh battery, I would guess around 45-46 pounds.

 

[Marshall Willanholly]

Any weight figures? With the rumoured 580wh battery, I would guess around 45-46 pounds.

20.9kg / 46lbs in size medium

 

[irie]

The TQ HPR-50 is still by far the quietest, smallest form factor, and has a much better display than the Fazua or Bosch SL motors. Removable battery is a nice trick too. Makes a lot of sense on a bike that could see bike park use. I just removed my TQ battery for 2 days at sun peaks- but I can also easily carry a second battery for 720wh total.

I’m impressed with the Bosch SX motor on my partners bike, but it is not really a game changer. Just a different feature set.

Without motor MTB bike weight is pretty much fixed given its construction and components - for arguments sake let's say that's ~15kg. By contrast a motor might weigh ~3 kg and a 750Wh battery ~4.5kg giving a combined bike weight of ~22.5kg

Whereas technology might reduce motor weights by percentages, new technologies just starting to dribble onto the market will reduce battery weights by magnitudes.

The weights of SL and FF eMTBs will slowly converge.

 

[Sherman]

new technologies just starting to dribble onto the market will reduce battery weights by magnitudes.

Haven't we heard this for the past ten years?