The King has no clothes - SL 1.2 Power

[Electricmtb777]

thanks, guys, for the engagement good to be part of a community; I typically sit on the sidelines, but glad I got involved.

As a consolidated reply:

1. @SquireRides Yes, it's the original battery, I had not thought of it being the limiting factor as it's still 100% healthy. Lithium batteries will produce to specification until 80% healthy. Thinking about it, it's not impossible that the BMS is limiting the AMP's. I still own the other bike, so it's being swapped as I speak.

2. Regarding temperature, knowing a little about lithium batteries, I can tell you that both rides were well within the operating temp. Secondly, using lithium batteries at 1 C, the variance will be less than 1% peak output. A lower temp could mean less capacity, which only further amplifies the fact that the motor is underperforming

3. When it comes to motor efficacy, yes, they might have tweaked one or two things, but adding 80 watts needs to come from somewhere

3. Thank you @CjP means a lot that I'm not alone with this issue. I was not aware that the app has AMPS. Sadly the bike is already in to swap the battery. I will provide feedback tomorrow on the AMPS it's pulling.

You need to switch the battery too to get the full power output

 

[di11ard]

Put an SL1.1 bike on a smart trainer with power pedals installed, take the watts from the trainer and subtract the rider’s power data from the pedals. Repeat the process with an SL1.2 bike. Wouldn’t this put the whole situation to bed quite fast?

 

[Cadusakaguchi]

I have some data recorded on BLevo with the 1.1 engine. I don't know if they help.

BLevo
20/05/2023
Motor Temperature:
- Min: 47°C
- Max: 80°C
- Average: 58°C
Motor power average: 182 Watt
- ECO: 42 Watt
- TRAIL: 104 Watt
- TURBO: 249 Watt
Motor power Max: 307 W
- ECO: 285 W (10:31:05 - km 27.70)
- TRAIL: 293 W (10:55:10 - km 33.09)
- TURBO: 307 W (11:06:09 - km 35.12)

30/10/2022
Motor Temperature:
- Min: 26°C
- Max: 73°C
- Average: 55°C
Motor power average: 371 Watt
- ECO: 166 Watt
- TRAIL: 222 Watt
- TURBO: 409 Watt
Motor power Max: 455 W
- ECO: 441 W (08:56:09 - km 21.36)
- TRAIL: 442 W (08:48:09 - km 16.93)
- TURBO: 455 W (09:50:45 - km 56.42)

29/10/2022
Motor Temperature:
- Min: 25°C
- Max: 69°C
- Average: 45°C
Motor power average: 224 Watt
- ECO: 37 Watt
- TRAIL: 168 Watt
- TURBO: 335 Watt
Motor power Max: 463 W
- ECO: 429 W (10:46:17 - km 63.05)
- TRAIL: 458 W (10:27:04 - km 59.38)
- TURBO: 463 W (08:52:34 - km 45.63)

21/08/2022
Motor Temperature:
- Min: 21°C
- Max: 61°C
- Average: 45°C
Motor power average: 244 Watt
- ECO: 47 Watt
- TRAIL: 153 Watt
- TURBO: 358 Watt
Motor power Max: 460 W
- ECO: 430 W (10:23:24 - km 33.08)
- TRAIL: 452 W (09:05:01 - km 4.07)
- TURBO: 460 W (10:48:49 - km 42.25)

14/08/2022
Motor Temperature:
- Min: 20°C
- Max: 61°C
- Average: 40°C
Motor power average: 254 Watt
- ECO: 59 Watt
- TRAIL: 157 Watt
- TURBO: 331 Watt
Motor power Max: 458 W
- ECO: 353 W (10:09:36 - km 51.55)
- TRAIL: 451 W (12:58:56 - km 64.09)
- TURBO: 458 W (13:00:27 - km 64.61)

13/08/2022
Motor Temperature:
- Min: 20°C
- Max: 57°C
- Average: 42°C
Motor power average: 196 Watt
- ECO: 48 Watt
- TRAIL: 209 Watt
- TURBO: 421 Watt
Motor power Max: 448 W
- ECO: 439 W (09:27:06 - km 16.28)
- TRAIL: 431 W (10:14:00 - km 41.81)
- TURBO: 448 W (09:02:38 - km 3.15)

12/08/2022
Motor Temperature:
- Min: 19°C
- Max: 67°C
- Average: 47°C
Motor power average: 282 Watt
- ECO: 120 Watt
- TRAIL: 216 Watt
- TURBO: 413 Watt
Motor power Max: 440 W
- ECO: 439 W (10:58:36 - km 13.02)
- TRAIL: 434 W (11:35:07 - km 34.48)
- TURBO: 440 W (10:57:35 - km 12.38)

09/08/2022
Motor Temperature:
- Min: 24°C
- Max: 71°C
- Average: 53°C
Motor power average: 294 Watt
- TRAIL: 206 Watt
- TURBO: 411 Watt
Motor power Max: 444 W
- TRAIL: 437 W (12:37:11 - km 15.13)
- TURBO: 444 W (12:31:34 - km 11.49)

06/08/2022
Motor Temperature:
- Min: 21°C
- Max: 66°C
- Average: 43°C
Motor power average: 198 Watt
- ECO: 60 Watt
- TRAIL: 170 Watt
- TURBO: 356 Watt
Motor power Max: 466 W
- ECO: 446 W (09:12:13 - km 15.81)
- TRAIL: 449 W (10:33:31 - km 34.14)
- TURBO: 466 W (09:40:44 - km 24.13)

05/08/2022
Motor Temperature:
- Min: 25°C
- Max: 70°C
- Average: 54°C
Motor power average: 280 Watt
- TRAIL: 202 Watt
- TURBO: 407 Watt
Motor power Max: 449 W
- TRAIL: 446 W (12:03:00 - km 22.93)
- TURBO: 449 W (12:02:56 - km 22.89)

02/08/2022
Motor Temperature:
- Min: 22°C
- Max: 69°C
- Average: 60°C
Motor power average: 397 Watt
- TRAIL: 248 Watt
- TURBO: 400 Watt
Motor power Max: 451 W
- TRAIL: 335 W (11:40:54 - km 0.24)
- TURBO: 451 W (11:44:10 - km 2.07)