STUnlocker (ex Shimano STEPS Unlocker) Android & Windows App for derestriction/market change and etc

[Spagnol]

True enough, and US market 19.5mph would probably do me too. You pay your money and take your chances I guess. Good to know it's working on EP8 though. 1000-miles on my E8000 with no issues. Will probably see if I can try and live with the restriction at first when the new bike comes, but I suspect I can't..

I'm finding 32 km/h just good enough and I believe I'm in the safe side in case of a warranty claim.

I will never understand the reason for the 25 km/h limitation in Europe, is just does not make sense .

 

[Pivot]

Supported for a what? All non-premium features are 100% supported for 4.9.0.
4.9.0 was released by Shimano to avoid derestriction, it's only one goal. So it's not possible to derestrict motor with 4.9.0 via Bluetooth

[mention]vadII [/mention]
Will I be able to change market setting from EU to US with 4.9.0?

I don’t want to mess with circumference anyway. Max 32km/h is perfectly fine for eMTB, where I ride.

 

[Cbmojo]

Changing the circumference = derestricton

I pm'd you with a question...thanks

 

[vadII]

For EP8 owners:
Confirmed! EP8 has a log of "regulation changes". The motor stores date/time and new settings each time when region/market or circumference was changed

These changes was made by a dealer/distributor for USA market

 

[MTBJay]

On Focus Jam2 I’m using the app which is saying the max power output is 500w , is this right as the spec of the unit is 250w , do I need to turn it down to 250 on the assist settings ?

 

[tumi]

Having the possession of Can..n 9 and Tunturi Emax with e8000 motors + Paralene2 9.8 with Fazua (probably by mistake, I actually hate road runners/driving) I have been wondering what kind of feature is the assist start modification advertised in the Shimano (E-TUBE PROJECT | E-TUBE) Youtube video at 0,59? Is it something to do with the motor angle or is it really something useful I have not seen with Mr Vadll's reply's as well not as with Stepsunlocker or Stunlocker, both of them acquired? Asking someone with problems with the snow several sometimes exceeding 100 centimeters/winter.

 

[Sunnyg32]

vadll, I'm a bit of a novice at this stuff, is it fairly easy to download 4.5.0 or 4.4.0 and how do I go about it.

Thank you,

Hi did you get instructions to downgrade?

 

[Pivot]

[mention]vadII [/mention]
I have been asking on numerous occasions if the ST-U app will be able to change market settings on f/w 4.9.0

It appears that it doesn’t. If you only bothered to answer my question, I wouldn’t waste my time upgrading and now having to downgrade.

 

[vadII]

[mention]vadII [/mention]
I have been asking on numerous occasions if the ST-U app will be able to change market settings on f/w 4.9.0

Latest FWs (4.9.0-E8000, 4.6.0-E7000/E6100, 4.4.2-E5000, 4.1.1-EP8) do not have "derestriction" features via Bluetooth. There is nothing to support.

 

[Cbmojo]

Anybody using the STunlocker app on the ep8 rs motor? I dont care about "de-restriction" but I see you can actually move the sliders around the power and torque of the motor (to push the 60nm limit up)...I have connected and used the app for data but have not tried to change the parameters of the motor. thoughts?

 

[vadII]

You can change TQ, but it's restricted by 60Nm (because of RS motor). PM me if you want to test increasing limits on your RS.

Anybody using the STunlocker app on the ep8 rs motor? I dont care about "de-restriction" but I see you can actually move the sliders around the power and torque of the motor (to push the 60nm limit up)...I have connected and used the app for data but have not tried to change the parameters of the motor. thoughts?

 

[Motohawk75]

Like a few others wanting to change the EP8 location to US I have asked several times on how to down grade the firmware explaining the reason (not great on a computer)

I have paid for licence and have been sent instruction BUT there not easy or clear to follow as it’s been led to believe (maybe they are if your good on your pc) but I like many others am not.

I’ve asked for help and a better / simple explanation to get it done to be told to “find someone else to help” .....

Not great really is it .....?‍

 

[H3NN0]

Hi , I’m doing something wrong with the connection to the st Unlocker app on ios

motor ep8 - screen sc-e7000
Bike Merida e one sixty

I downloaded the app, followed the instructions but the app can’t find the bike :s

when I use the E-TUBE app it finds the bike almost directly.

I can’t wait to try / use the St Unlocker app. But I fail at the first step. Can someone point me out what I do wrong or how I do it properly.

 

[vadII]

I can’t wait to try / use the St Unlocker app. But I fail at the first step. Can someone point me out what I do wrong or how I do it properly.

It fails or didn't find your bike? Did you read the "Troubleshooting" section of the App's manual

 

[H3NN0]

It fails or didn't find your bike? Did you read the "Troubleshooting" section of the App's manual

it can’t find the bike. Yes I read all the FAQ and troubleshooting ?

 

[vadII]

it can’t find the bike. Yes I read all the FAQ and troubleshooting ?

Very unbelievable story, sorry

 

[H3NN0]

Very unbelievable story, sorry

I will film it later today.

 

[moulder211]

Hi I have just downloaded stunlocker and am desperate to derestrict the 25kph limit on my e800, any help please?

 

[Motohawk75]

Spoke to my lbs who made a call to shimano U.K. regarding changing location there response was very clear, it will void your warranty regardless of the motor issue and if it relates to the changes that have been made. They were very short and to the point about it.
I think that’s ridiculous personally but there you go.

 

[vadII]

Spoke to my lbs who made a call to shimano U.K. regarding changing location there response was very clear, it will void your warranty regardless of the motor issue and if it relates to the changes that have been made. They were very short and to the point about it.
I think that’s ridiculous personally but there you go.

I wonder what did you expect at all? You thought that they would tell you: - change whatever you want?

1. Only EP8 motor has a regulation log (log of region/circumference changes). I have not heard of a single case where the dealer could provide evidence that the motor was used as "derestricted". And there seems to be no way to prove it if all settings were changed back to stock.

2. Even for EP8, I have met several cases when an American dealer / importer himself changed the region using dealers version of E-Tube project. Who can prove that the dealer did it and not the owner himself?

In any case, while there are only questions about ep8 warranty. There is nothing to worry about other motors.

 

[Motohawk75]

I wonder what did you expect at all? You thought that they would tell you: - change whatever you want?

1. Only EP8 motor has a regulation log (log of region/circumference changes). I have not heard of a single case where the dealer could provide evidence that the motor was used as "derestricted". And there seems to be no way to prove it if all settings were changed back to stock.

2. Even for EP8, I have met several cases when an American dealer / importer himself changed the region using dealers version of E-Tube project. Who can prove that the dealer did it and not the owner himself?

In any case, while there are only questions about ep8 warranty. There is nothing to worry about other motors.

I find your attitude towards your customers hard to understand at times.
I like many others ask for your help after purchasing your product and you either don’t reply or when you do its been less than helpful which I just don’t get ?

I asked the boys to call Shimano and ask them what the situation was regarding changing the location as it’s a big deal to those of us who have spent £8000 on a new bike. As much as I want mine to have the higher speed I also want to know the score regards warranty as this ultimately is my choice and there for risk.
They said if the motor was seen to be modified to change the location then hey would not honour the warranty.
This obviously is not an issue if you could change back to standard in the case of a claim or the firmware change was not logged but if it is then I think it’s pretty fair that we know the score. ..... for the record I don’t agree with there answer what so ever and it’s crap as the motor is obviously designed to run at the higher cut off speed.

 

[Pivot]

I agree with MH75 on three accounts:
1 vadll attitude is rather unfortunate and his lack of decent feedback cost me dearly
2 it is our risk / decision
3 Shimano is built for higher speed or it would not have this option, or there would be large number of warranty returns in the US, leading to upgrade/redesign.

 

[moulder211]

I tried asking vadll for help today also and my response was sharp and rude and he was no help at all.
One unhappy potential customer will go elsewhere along with the big group of ebike riders I ride with.

 

[vadII]

I tried asking vadll for help today also and my response was sharp and rude and he was no help at all.
One unhappy potential customer will go elsewhere along with the big group of ebike riders I ride with.

Who are you? Did you really ask a help?

 

[vadII]

1 vadll attitude is rather unfortunate and his lack of decent feedback cost me dearly

What are you talking about?

 

[moulder211]

Yes, via email! (I only had media and no data after clicking on android)

 

[vadII]

Yes, via email! (I only had media and no data after clicking on android)

Oh. Ok, let me know when you find it

 

[moulder211]

It's not there, tried it on my partners phone and she didn't have it either, is there not any other way to do it?

 

[vadII]

It's not there, tried it on my partners phone and she didn't have it either, is there not any other way to do it?

Look, Android system can't work without this folder (Android/Data). This folder contains data of all App's, including system ones . It looks like you use wrong App for exploring your phone's memory.
BTW, the downgrade manual has another option for Android system - to use a PC.

 

[Motohawk75]

Look, Android system can't work without this folder. It's not possible at all. It looks like you use wrong App for exploriring your phone's memory, or you and your partner have unique Android phones with unique Android system that I don't know exists.
BTW, the downgrade manual has another option for Android system - to use a PC.

P.S. Guys, I'm not the company, I'm not Shimano. I'm a man who made the App for Shimano bikes. It's my hobby project. I don't have PR managers, marketing department and etc. I'm a straight person. I do not accept hypocrisy. If you don't like my anwers - don't use my App. It's simple. I have neither the time nor the energy to answer hundreds of the same questions every day. Thank you

I think there’s just perhaps a lack of communication and a break down in understanding between your self and some of less computer minded people ....

What I think would really help would be a clearer / slower explanation / instruction on how to down grade or upgrade the firmware allowing the app to work (especially on the ep8)
I know you think the instructions you send are clear but to those who are not familiar with this kind of computer work they really are not.
The video link would be a great idea if you slowed it down giving enough time for the user to copy what’s on the screen and either subtitles or a voice over as trying to follow the curser on screen in silence at your speed is just to difficult.

Otherwise unfortunately for my self and others that have purchased the licence it’s going to be a wasted exercise.

Cheers ?