Spectral:ON 630Wh external Battery (BT-E8016) upgrade possible?

[Timochka69]

So if I understand correctly: the new 630Wh battery just slides in the old holders when you remove just one tab from the battery?

No, you remove one tab in the battery holder.

It seems with the default shock there is enough room for the 630 Wh battery, but if one has upgraded the shock with an external reservoir model the fit may be too tight.

 

[fmgaspar]

No, you remove one tab in the battery holder.

It seems with the default shock there is enough room for the 630 Wh battery, but if one has upgraded the shock with an external reservoir model the fit may be too tight.

My issue is, is there enough space with the original shock as well if you have a size S frame?

 

[maurocif]

So glad someone tried it in their spectral:On, because the answer I got from Spectral-Belgium was that it was NOT possible in this frame to place the new battery. So if I understand correctly: the new 630Wh battery just slides in the old holders when you remove just one tab from the battery?

Not from the battery, from the lower holder

 

[Freebert]

Ok, thank you. I was mistaken. If I remove one tab from the holder, how firm will the original battery hold in the holder?

 

[maurocif]

I can say that after a static test the 504 Wh battery stays absolutely firm in the modified holder, just like the 630 Wh one.
In addition, yesterday I tested it with the 630 Wh battery and the old holder modified with my first ride with them. The ride was a good test, with long very bumpy descents that stressed the coupling between battery and holder. Excellent result! No rattling noise, no vibration and, of course, the confirmation of a 25% range increase with no penalty in terms of driveability!

 

[Freebert]

Incrediblé! That's great news and thumbs up for Shimano for making it quite easy for us to retrofit!

 

[fmgaspar]

I can say that after a static test the 504 Wh battery stays absolutely firm in the modified holder, just like the 630 Wh one.
In addition, yesterday I tested it with the 630 Wh battery and the old holder modified with my first ride with them. The ride was a good test, with long very bumpy descents that stressed the coupling between battery and holder. Excellent result! No rattling noise, no vibration and, of course, the confirmation of a 25% range increase with no penalty in terms of driveability!

maurocif, what's your frame size mate?

 

[maurocif]

maurocif, what's your frame size mate?

It's a 2019 Spectral:On 6.0 size M

 

[fmgaspar]

It's a 2019 Spectral:On 6.0 size M

Thanks mate. Guess I'm gonna have to be the first one trying it out on a size S. I'm just worried cause I really think the free area in the front triangle is that bit smaller.

 

[maurocif]

Hope these pictures help: the first one with the 504 Wh battery, the second one with the 630 Wh battery:

 

[fmgaspar]

Hope these pictures help: the first one with the 504 Wh battery, the second one with the 630 Wh battery:
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Thanks that's perfect! It might be fine actually, the distance from the shock to the battery doesn't change as much as I thought it would.

 

[norrit]

Spectral:ON 7.0 2020
Framesize = M

 

[gofrank]

Salve ragazzi, visto che molti di voi utilizzano la spettrale su volevo chiedere se qualcuno avesse sostituito la corona originale 34 T con altra di dimensioni diverse.

 

[fmgaspar]

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Spectral:ON 7.0 2020
Framesize = M

Nice one mate. Surprised that you can still use the bottle cage! Cheers

 

[Shane228mtb]

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Spectral:ON 7.0 2020
Framesize = M

Did you change out the actual battery mount like Shimano requests? I want to get this battery for my Commencal. These pictures have answered several questions that I spent three days asking Commencal about.

 

[BikeTrailsAndWaggingTails]

@Shane228mtb check out the entire post (pages 4 and 5).

Shimano release new 630Wh batteries

@Avyoung I figured out that battery range thing. From yesterday, after a 20.3 mile ride on the 630Wh battery, the battery range in Eco is 13 miles with 2 bars left (it slipped my mind to check Trail and Boost modes). I'm not if sure if these numbers are helpful tho because battery range is...

www.emtbforums.com

I even covered how to mod the existing lower mount so you can skip from buying the new mount (if you choose). I also covered which E-Tube software recognizes the new battery and if there were error codes after the install. And finally I gave my personal assessment of the 603wh 630wh battery after a 20.3 mile ride.

Hope this helps. Cheers.

 

[BikeTrailsAndWaggingTails]

But to give credit where credit is due. @norrit did an exceptional job covering the install on the new battery mount for people who decides to go that route. Thank you @norrit

 

[Shane228mtb]

@Shane228mtb check out the entire post (pages 4 and 5).

Shimano release new 630Wh batteries

@Avyoung I figured out that battery range thing. From yesterday, after a 20.3 mile ride on the 630Wh battery, the battery range in Eco is 13 miles with 2 bars left (it slipped my mind to check Trail and Boost modes). I'm not if sure if these numbers are helpful tho because battery range is...

www.emtbforums.com

I even covered how to mod the existing lower mount so you can skip from buying the new mount (if you choose). I also covered which E-Tube software recognizes the new battery and if there were error codes after the install. And finally I gave my personal assessment of the 603wh battery after a 20.3 mile ride.

Hope this helps. Cheers.

Thank you for this! I went back a read all of the posts, you went far above the call of duty here. Now to save up for the battery.

 

[Vas]

@Shane228mtb check out the entire post (pages 4 and 5).

Shimano release new 630Wh batteries

@Avyoung I figured out that battery range thing. From yesterday, after a 20.3 mile ride on the 630Wh battery, the battery range in Eco is 13 miles with 2 bars left (it slipped my mind to check Trail and Boost modes). I'm not if sure if these numbers are helpful tho because battery range is...

www.emtbforums.com

I even covered how to mod the existing lower mount so you can skip from buying the new mount (if you choose). I also covered which E-Tube software recognizes the new battery and if there were error codes after the install. And finally I gave my personal assessment of the 603wh 630wh battery after a 20.3 mile ride.

Hope this helps. Cheers.

Hi BikeTrails, Firstly you are doing an excellent job for many people re the mount mod!
However, I cannot find your posts in page 4 or 5. I'm sure that I read them a few days ago, but they aren't there any longer.

It seems that there are missing (removed??) posts in page 4 (there is a large gap between May 22 to Oct 26).

 

[IOM-TT]

I converted my Canyon Spectral On today to take the eternal 630 battery and my frame size is the XTRA SMALL so was worried it would not fit.
IT FITS PERFECT. ????????

I also only trimmed down the lug on the mount with a stanly knife to allow for the smaller location hole. Really simple to do. Just sliced at the next spline in the lug.
Had to loose my bottle holder but that’s no issue. EPIC RIDES HERE WE COME.
still takes the old 500 battery too so be riding all day with that in a backpack. ??

 

[Vas]

IOM, please let us know what is the range imrovement with the larger battery.
I'm thinking of converting too, but before investing on the larger battery it would be helpful to know the real-life range improvements.
Thanks|!

 

[fmgaspar]

I converted my Canyon Spectral On today to take the eternal 630 battery and my frame size is the XTRA SMALL so was worried it would not fit.
IT FITS PERFECT. ????????

I also only trimmed down the lug on the mount with a stanly knife to allow for the smaller location hole. Really simple to do. Just sliced at the next spline in the lug.
Had to loose my bottle holder but that’s no issue. EPIC RIDES HERE WE COME.
still takes the old 500 battery too so be riding all day with that in a backpack. ?? View attachment 50685
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Sh*t. I've no escuses now. I was still apprehensive as I've a size S and the other people who had tried it had bigger frames.
Now I know it's OK on a size XS I'm gonna have to go for it...

 

[PaulE]

That's very encouraging thanks IOM, range stats with mode used, or comparison with the original battery would be great when you have them please. Also, did you manage to find a good place/price to buy from? Thanks for your help, Paul.

 

[gofrank]

[QUOTE = "PaulE, post: 256566, membro: 10344"]
Questo è molto incoraggiante grazie IOM, le statistiche sull'autonomia con la modalità utilizzata o il confronto con la batteria originale sarebbe fantastico quando le hai per favore. Inoltre, sei riuscito a trovare un buon posto / prezzo da cui comprare? Grazie per il tuo aiuto, Paul.
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[R120]

So my battery has finally turned up - is it really a simple case of Stanley knifing off the last lug?

 

[PaulE]

So my battery has finally turned up - is it really a simple case of Stanley knifing off the last lug?

I'm really looking forward to hearing your experience with this R120

 

[R120]

Picking it up from the LBS later and intention is to take it out tomorrow keep it in trail mode and drain the battery - will only be a localish ride so wont have crazy elevation, but on my local loop the best I managed about 2 years ago when my current 504wh battery was still relatively new was about 25 miles and 2500ft elevation, though that was in dry conditions and its a proper muddiest round here right now.

 

[PaulE]

Picking it up from the LBS later and intention is to take it out tomorrow keep it in trail mode and drain the battery - will only be a localish ride so wont have crazy elevation, but on my local loop the best I managed about 2 years ago when my current 504wh battery was still relatively new was about 25 miles and 2500ft elevation, though that was in dry conditions and its a proper muddiest round here right now.

When our bikes go out of guarantee, over the next couple of months, I'm going to open up my old battery and get the cells tested to see if I can work out why my range, on flat country lanes and easy trails, has dropped from 60 miles per charge, down to 38. I'm keen to see what you think of the new battery and what range you get. Do you mind sharing how much you paid for it please?

 

[R120]

Got it back home now and will attempt the mount surgery later. Weighed one of my 504wh batteries and the new one. 630wh is about 600g heavier, which tally up with what @norrit measured his at.

Its a big old lump for sure!

 

[R120]

So five minute job to hack saw, tidy up with a Stanley, and a bit of light sanding, mine is not the neatest attempt though! - fits super tight which is good.