Shorter Crank Arms on Levo / Kenevo?

[Botts101]

I've found these and asked the manufacturer if they fit:

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I have these on my bike - 155. WAY safer with low BB. These fit my Kenevo

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Hmmm... these add about 5mm each side to the Q Factor. I didn't really want to go wider. I dont know which QF they sent me, but I think I'm gonna change them for a narrower QF.

Standard:

New Miranda:

 

[R120]

Will it be that noticeable of flats? Your never putting your feet in the same place on flats, unlike Clips

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Will it be that noticeable of flats? Your never putting your feet in the same place on flats, unlike Clips

Not sure - I'm going to see which ones they've sent and if its the closest then I'll just keep them and see how I get on.

 

[UKPHOTO]

Not sure - I'm going to see which ones they've sent and if its the closest then I'll just keep them and see how I get on.

That seems to be the norm difference in Q factor from posts I've read. Be good to hear if they say have different option though.
Still awaiting review before ordering ?

On separate note, if these are essentially the (now sold out ) ones offered by Merlin, then the Merlin price was a cracker @ £34.99 for a pair inc. bolts.
What have you done for bolts btw Rob?

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Dillglove just confirmed that these are the Q16 crank arms, so 16mm measurement from outside the crank bolt to the arm.

That means that it I reduced down to the Q8 arms I'd reduce the QF by 8mm on each side, resulting in a reduced QF over stock (I'd be 3mm shorter).

Splitting hairs? Probably, I'll just stick with the Q16's, go for a burn and see what they feel like. I'll probably not even notice.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

What have you done for bolts btw Rob?

(PAIR) BOLTS M15 FSA ISIS / OCTALINK BOTTOM BRACKET CRANK ARM BOLT & WASHER | eBay

 

[Kiwi in Wales]

(PAIR) BOLTS M15 FSA ISIS / OCTALINK BOTTOM BRACKET CRANK ARM BOLT & WASHER | eBay

Hi all,

I have been searching for an alternative and found these. You will not need an crank extraction tool if you purchase these so one less tool to carry around.

 

[ccrdave]

Do the bolts in the specialized cranks fit the miranda

 

[Kiwi in Wales]

Dillglove just confirmed that these are the Q16 crank arms, so 16mm measurement from outside the crank bolt to the arm.

That means that it I reduced down to the Q8 arms I'd reduce the QF by 8mm on each side, resulting in a reduced QF over stock (I'd be 3mm shorter).

Splitting hairs? Probably, I'll just stick with the Q16's, go for a burn and see what they feel like. I'll probably not even notice.


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So you could have gone with the 8mm versions.... Apologies Rob, I thought the 16mm measurement was the inside measurement and not the outside measurement ?

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

So you could have gone with the 8mm versions.... Apologies Rob, I thought the 16mm measurement was the inside measurement and not the outside measurement ?

No probs, what do you think about my QF? reckon I should return them for the QF8? Do you notice much difference in your experience with different QF?

 

[Kiwi in Wales]

Do the bolts in the specialized cranks fit the miranda

Very valid point Dave. This is where things can get very confusing.....so many different standards and sizes.

It will definitely be a 15mm thread that connects to the motor. Looking at Robs posted photos of the Miranda cranks above it looks like a 22mm upper thread. The Praxis upper thread is 26mm.

 

[Kiwi in Wales]

No probs, what do you think about my QF? reckon I should return them for the QF8? Do you notice much difference in your experience with different QF?

The current 137s I have on are wider than yours 22mm left side and 26mm right side and I did not notice any diffence but then that is purely my opinion. Put it this way, it did not affect my riding or slow me down the other day and I achieved a number of personal bests on Strava ?

 

[ccrdave]

Very valid point Dave. This is where things can get very confusing.....so many different standards and sizes.

It will definitely be a 15mm thread that connects to the motor. Looking at Robs posted photos of the Miranda cranks above it looks like a 22mm upper thread. The Praxis upper thread is 26mm.

Ok but you only need the upper thread for self exctracting so if you dont use self exctracting bolts does that mean you need exctractor tools of different sizes i thought both inner and outer thread were standard
What have i missed?

 

[Kiwi in Wales]

Ok but you only need the upper thread for self exctracting so if you dont use self exctracting bolts does that mean you need exctractor tools of different sizes i thought both inner and outer thread were standard
What have i missed?

Correct, you need the upper thread measurement if you are using self extracting bolts.

However, you also need the upper thread measurement to make sure you have the correct size extractor tool if you are using non self extracting bolts. Unfortunately the upper thread is not Standard ?.

The cranks I have been using lately are all 22mm upper. So a 22mm extracting tool is required to remove the cranks if I use non self extracting bolts
The Praxis cranks have a 26mm upper so if you used non self extracting bolts on the Praxis cranks you would need a 26mm extracting tool to remove the cranks.

 

[R120]

The Mirandas i got for my Shimano equipped bike, which came from Dillgrove, had all the bolts/necassary hardware with them, which had not expected as Bryan from dill grove had said he didn't think they came with any.

 

[Cyclejunkie]

Can I be cheeky rode today on the levo far to many pedal strikes need 150mm when we have the perfect solution (if there is one) can someone put a link to where we can buy the crank arms (for the levo 2018) & the BS will know what we need & send the right cranks to us....or I’m I asking to much of my fellow e-bikers ????

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Im going to test mine tonight (before the football beer?).

 

[R120]

Dillglove are the UK Distributors for Miranda - I and several others have bought the cranks directly off them.

Bryan McQueen
Operations Director
Dillglove Limited
Tel: 0121 354 4127
[email protected]

 

[Kiwi in Wales]

Dillglove are the UK Distributors for Miranda - I and several others have bought the cranks directly off them.

Bryan McQueen
Operations Director
Dillglove Limited
Tel: 0121 354 4127
[email protected]

The question @Cyclejunkie might want to know is, did you get the 16mm ones or the 8mm ones?

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

The question @Cyclejunkie might want to know is, did you get the 16mm ones or the 8mm ones?

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Bryan at Dillglove is checking to see if he can get the 8mm ones, at the moment he only has 16mm. As soon as he lets me know ill update the thread.

 

[R120]

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The question @Cyclejunkie might want to know is, did you get the 16mm ones or the 8mm ones?

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I have the Shimano e8000 ones so no help for the levo - mine are pretty much the same Q factor from eyeballing them as the stock

 

[Dominic]

Anyone know where to pick up some of these in the us?

 

[eFat]

Anyone know where to pick up some of these in the us?

Contact Miranda, they sell directly.

In their shop some dimensions are available but not all, so better to send a message.

 

[Kiwi in Wales]

Im going to test mine tonight (before the football beer?).

How was the crank test last night Rob?

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

How was the crank test last night Rob?

Amazing!!! Everyone - do it!

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Love a cheeky Strava lag, takes a minute to before its updated to E Bike. ??

This is with Miranda 152mm!

 

[Stumpy]

Amazing!!! Everyone - do it!

So who do we email and what do we ask for?

(please/thank you)

 

[Dominic]

I called Miranda and they said that the 152 wouldn’t fit my levo. What am I missing here? Did you need to make any modifications?
Thanks

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Call Bryan at Dillglove.

0121 354 4127

Tell him Rob says they work great!