As much as i like this bike i have to say that i really think this motor is lacking.
I dont buy this 300% assistance as anything more than marketing. Cadence range is far to small and power tails off very fast under hard pedalling.
I have mine in the US 20mph mode and clearly at 18.5 it drops off. I think this is because it cannot handle the load and Shimano programmed it this way.
The EU 15.4mph limit hides this problem as the speed limit makes you think its powering up to the limit but in actual fact you can hit that limit after a few hard pedals. The EU limit sucks balls and totally ruins the fun in ebikes. Its very broken and the extra few mph on the US setting makes a massive difference.
We were doing jumps on a short run up and a 2018 kenevo which is a tank of a bike was jumping far higher than my Decoy. Just shows you how badly under powered this motor is. That motor isnt even the brose model which is even more powerful.
70nm isnt enough, 300% assistance i believe is only achieved under limited circumstances and the motor is noisey.
For an aggressive style rider this motor is simply not enough. I live in a very flat area and half my trails are flat and i want to boost my speed to jump off kickers and small trail jumps which makes the whole ride more fun.
I also have a feeling the Bosch motor is both more powerful but also more usable power which results in a better ride but i need to spend more time on a bike to see for sure. There is no competition with the Brose or some of the newer motors with far more assistance and torque.
This motor for sure feels end of life and Shimanos next one will likely address these issues but my biggest concern for this bike was this motor and i have to say to some degree i think i should have chosen the Bosch. As much as id want the power of Brose the reliability is shockingly bad and id want to see what the 2021 models perform like.
Between the Motor and the pedal strikes of this bike i think there much that will be improved in coming models.
I dont buy this 300% assistance as anything more than marketing. Cadence range is far to small and power tails off very fast under hard pedalling.
I have mine in the US 20mph mode and clearly at 18.5 it drops off. I think this is because it cannot handle the load and Shimano programmed it this way.
The EU 15.4mph limit hides this problem as the speed limit makes you think its powering up to the limit but in actual fact you can hit that limit after a few hard pedals. The EU limit sucks balls and totally ruins the fun in ebikes. Its very broken and the extra few mph on the US setting makes a massive difference.
We were doing jumps on a short run up and a 2018 kenevo which is a tank of a bike was jumping far higher than my Decoy. Just shows you how badly under powered this motor is. That motor isnt even the brose model which is even more powerful.
70nm isnt enough, 300% assistance i believe is only achieved under limited circumstances and the motor is noisey.
For an aggressive style rider this motor is simply not enough. I live in a very flat area and half my trails are flat and i want to boost my speed to jump off kickers and small trail jumps which makes the whole ride more fun.
I also have a feeling the Bosch motor is both more powerful but also more usable power which results in a better ride but i need to spend more time on a bike to see for sure. There is no competition with the Brose or some of the newer motors with far more assistance and torque.
This motor for sure feels end of life and Shimanos next one will likely address these issues but my biggest concern for this bike was this motor and i have to say to some degree i think i should have chosen the Bosch. As much as id want the power of Brose the reliability is shockingly bad and id want to see what the 2021 models perform like.
Between the Motor and the pedal strikes of this bike i think there much that will be improved in coming models.