Any idea on lead time to get?Online. There's an entire configurator where you can spec components, paint, etc - I'm in the USA FYI.
Any idea on lead time to get?Online. There's an entire configurator where you can spec components, paint, etc - I'm in the USA FYI.
Any idea on lead time to get?
Nice looking bike, @Rob Rides EMTB do you know what the M20 weighs?
I'd rather have a display than that clumsy looking joint box thing though.
These are the dates I see for the M10 on UK website:
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I did spend a lot of time searching and testing before I chose the Focus, but given that it was my first emtb, I still think I just got lucky.Isn't this just a Focus Jam 2 with the tech pack ? All seems very similar spec wise on batteries, just with the motor configured with Stunlocker to only be 60nm for more range ?
See @steve_sordy you're actually cutting edge if you just turn your power down or downgrade to an e7000 .. and to think @Gary said you weren't leading the styles. Down grade your suspension to match and only run inner tubes with no tyres and it's pretty much identical.
So this seems to blow the SL out the water - lets say the Orbea comes in at 18kg with 150mm, DPX, and 36's, surely speccing an SL to a similar level would result in the same ish weigh but at a significant power disadvantage, plus the Geo on the Orbea (at least to me) is much more appealing.
@Rob Rides EMTB what did you SL weigh in at when similarly specced?
Nobody buys an SL because it hasn't got enough power for them: there's nothing at all disadvantageous about the SL's power compared to the Orbea - it's the point of the SL - any more than the Orbea is "disadvantaged" compared to a FF Shimano-powered bike.but at a significant power disadvantage
So this seems to blow the SL out the water - lets say the Orbea comes in at 18kg with 150mm, DPX, and 36's, surely speccing an SL to a similar level would result in the same ish weigh but at a significant power disadvantage, plus the Geo on the Orbea (at least to me) is much more appealing.
@Rob Rides EMTB what did you SL weigh in at when similarly specced?
2A charger, lucky it's a small battery... 21700 cells so should be able to accept a much higher charge rate.
Oh dear, I'm sounding a bit negative here...
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a good looking bike and a definite step in the right direction (less weight) but I'd be much more interested in a superlight 160/170 eeb. 4000m of climbing is great (presumably that's on both batteries) but only when paired with 4000m of interesting descending. I have no interest in 80KM XC rides.
No you mistake my point, the bike I really want is a Levo SL Evo with geometry like a Stumpy Evo, the appeal to me is the weight, the power a non issue, the SL is fine on that front for me.Nobody buys an SL because it hasn't got enough power for them: there's nothing at all disadvantageous about the SL's power compared to the Orbea - it's the point of the SL - any more than the Orbea is "disadvantaged" compared to a FF Shimano-powered bike.
Mine is around 17.5 KG with 160mm Ohlins RXF36 / TTX air and DHR2So this seems to blow the SL out the water - lets say the Orbea comes in at 18kg with 150mm, DPX, and 36's, surely speccing an SL to a similar level would result in the same ish weigh but at a significant power disadvantage, plus the Geo on the Orbea (at least to me) is much more appealing.
@Rob Rides EMTB what did you SL weigh in at when similarly specced?
I think the point is if you ride an SL, even if it doesn't weigh that much less, it feels like it does when you ride it - the interest to me is if the Orbea has that same feeling - I rode a bog standard alloy SL, which was only just under 2kg lower weight than my hardtail EMTB, but it felt like it was a way bigger difference.I think I'm still missing something .. we're a year on from the 19.3kg full fat Mondraker ..
This bad boy is 800g less weight still with less spec suspension and a 1kg lighter/smaller battery ... I feel like I'm being fluffed ....... it's nice, don't get me wrong .. but .. just but ... I'll get my coat.
In the GMBN vid you can hear the rattle very clearlyMine is around 17.5 KG with 160mm Ohlins RXF36 / TTX air and DHR2
Orbea is very impressive. I think it’ll end up being around 1kg heavier in equivalent build, but with the more powerful 60Nm motor and a decent saving in cost.
Not sure if I could put up with the EP8 rattle though in its current form.
Bang on to be honest. Although they are more like 20KG without the cheating Rekon tyres that have less tread than a pussy cats tongueI think I'm still missing something .. we're a year on from the 19.3kg full fat Mondraker ..
This bad boy is 800g less weight still with less spec suspension and a 1kg lighter/smaller battery ... I feel like I'm being fluffed ....... it's nice, don't get me wrong .. but .. just but ... I'll get my coat.
It’s so bad. I know @TheBikePilot said it’s stop him buying the bike. In our experience it happened even on fire roads. Where as the Bosch only on proper choppy trails.In the GMBN vid you can hear the rattle very clearly
I rather buy new Clio, this is going too far.. really
No you mistake my point, the bike I really want is a Levo SL Evo with geometry like a Stumpy Evo, the appeal to me is the weight, the power a non issue, the SL is fine on that front for me.
However having said that if the Orbea comprises a similar package in terms of weight and handling, but with more power thrown in, thats far more appealing, plus if on group ride it has the ability to stay in the pack when everyone else is on a full fat, thats a big bonus, because thats a big issue with the SL if you are riding hilly terrain on a long ride with other EMTB's.
Plus in the absence (for the mean time) of a Levo SL Evo, the Orbeas geometry is far more in line with what i look for, and on paper a more capable bike.
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