Orbea Rise EMTB - 16.2KG Superlight

[squeegee]

Online. There's an entire configurator where you can spec components, paint, etc - I'm in the USA FYI.

Any idea on lead time to get?

 

[RickBullotta]

Any idea on lead time to get?

Tentative date is January 4th, 2021 (12 weeks roughly)

 

[mark.ai]

60nm is already really close to the E8000 (70nm) anyway if that's what you're used to ...

 

[squeegee]

Nice looking bike, @Rob Rides EMTB do you know what the M20 weighs?

I'd rather have a display than that clumsy looking joint box thing though.

Would be nice to see weights on all models, don't see that on their site.

 

[mark.ai]

These are the dates I see for the M10 on UK website:

 

[RickBullotta]

These are the dates I see for the M10 on UK website:
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Try doing a custom paint - that reduced it to January for me, at least for the LTD model

 

[R120]

Specced one up, now I just need to find 10k down the back of the sofa ?‍

 

[Zimmerframe]

Isn't this just a Focus Jam 2 with the tech pack ? All seems very similar spec wise on batteries, just with the motor configured with Stunlocker to only be 60nm for more range ?

See @steve_sordy you're actually cutting edge if you just turn your power down or downgrade to an e7000 .. and to think @Gary said you weren't leading the styles. Down grade your suspension to match and only run inner tubes with no tyres and it's pretty much identical.

 

[mark.ai]

This chart is interesting (from Orbea Rise M10 2021 - MYO (customise paint)) - the bottom one anyway

 

[stiv674]

Specced one up, now I just need to find 10k down the back of the sofa ?‍

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Can you find some for me as well ?

 

[steve_sordy]

Isn't this just a Focus Jam 2 with the tech pack ? All seems very similar spec wise on batteries, just with the motor configured with Stunlocker to only be 60nm for more range ?

See @steve_sordy you're actually cutting edge if you just turn your power down or downgrade to an e7000 .. and to think @Gary said you weren't leading the styles. Down grade your suspension to match and only run inner tubes with no tyres and it's pretty much identical.

I did spend a lot of time searching and testing before I chose the Focus, but given that it was my first emtb, I still think I just got lucky.

 

[R120]

So this seems to blow the SL out the water - lets say the Orbea comes in at 18kg with 150mm, DPX, and 36's, surely speccing an SL to a similar level would result in the same ish weigh but at a significant power disadvantage, plus the Geo on the Orbea (at least to me) is much more appealing.

@Rob Rides EMTB what did you SL weigh in at when similarly specced?

 

[RickBullotta]

So this seems to blow the SL out the water - lets say the Orbea comes in at 18kg with 150mm, DPX, and 36's, surely speccing an SL to a similar level would result in the same ish weigh but at a significant power disadvantage, plus the Geo on the Orbea (at least to me) is much more appealing.

@Rob Rides EMTB what did you SL weigh in at when similarly specced?

I ended up going with that spec on my Rise (150mm 36/Grip 2, DPX2) and also went with 4 pot XTRs instead of the 2 pot brakes.

 

[dobbyhasfriends]

The GMBN boys went out on em in Wales..

 

[Shjay]

Same power as my E7000 Sommet, like the geometry compared to the SL.

 

[KeithR]

but at a significant power disadvantage

Nobody buys an SL because it hasn't got enough power for them: there's nothing at all disadvantageous about the SL's power compared to the Orbea - it's the point of the SL - any more than the Orbea is "disadvantaged" compared to a FF Shimano-powered bike.

 

[SquireRides]

So this seems to blow the SL out the water - lets say the Orbea comes in at 18kg with 150mm, DPX, and 36's, surely speccing an SL to a similar level would result in the same ish weigh but at a significant power disadvantage, plus the Geo on the Orbea (at least to me) is much more appealing.

@Rob Rides EMTB what did you SL weigh in at when similarly specced?

When I saw the specs I said, the Orbea will be better value for money than the Levo SL. Mainstream motor and Orbea tend to be okay value for all their bikes.

If this was out when I was buying, it would have been a tough decision between the two.

 

[nasamorpheus]

I rather buy new Clio, this is going too far.. really

 

[Norway1980]

2A charger, lucky it's a small battery... 21700 cells so should be able to accept a much higher charge rate.

Oh dear, I'm sounding a bit negative here...

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a good looking bike and a definite step in the right direction (less weight) but I'd be much more interested in a superlight 160/170 eeb. 4000m of climbing is great (presumably that's on both batteries) but only when paired with 4000m of interesting descending. I have no interest in 80KM XC rides.

What about the rotwild e375 - it is a similar concept but with enduro build and geo - would love to see some reviews on it

 

[Zimmerframe]

I think I'm still missing something .. we're a year on from the 19.3kg full fat Mondraker ..


This bad boy is 800g less weight still with less spec suspension and a 1kg lighter/smaller battery ... I feel like I'm being fluffed ....... it's nice, don't get me wrong .. but .. just but ... I'll get my coat.

 

[R120]

Nobody buys an SL because it hasn't got enough power for them: there's nothing at all disadvantageous about the SL's power compared to the Orbea - it's the point of the SL - any more than the Orbea is "disadvantaged" compared to a FF Shimano-powered bike.

No you mistake my point, the bike I really want is a Levo SL Evo with geometry like a Stumpy Evo, the appeal to me is the weight, the power a non issue, the SL is fine on that front for me.

However having said that if the Orbea comprises a similar package in terms of weight and handling, but with more power thrown in, thats far more appealing, plus if on group ride it has the ability to stay in the pack when everyone else is on a full fat, thats a big bonus, because thats a big issue with the SL if you are riding hilly terrain on a long ride with other EMTB's.

Plus in the absence (for the mean time) of a Levo SL Evo, the Orbeas geometry is far more in line with what i look for, and on paper a more capable bike.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

So this seems to blow the SL out the water - lets say the Orbea comes in at 18kg with 150mm, DPX, and 36's, surely speccing an SL to a similar level would result in the same ish weigh but at a significant power disadvantage, plus the Geo on the Orbea (at least to me) is much more appealing.

@Rob Rides EMTB what did you SL weigh in at when similarly specced?

Mine is around 17.5 KG with 160mm Ohlins RXF36 / TTX air and DHR2

Orbea is very impressive. I think it’ll end up being around 1kg heavier in equivalent build, but with the more powerful 60Nm motor and a decent saving in cost.

Not sure if I could put up with the EP8 rattle though in its current form.

 

[R120]

I think I'm still missing something .. we're a year on from the 19.3kg full fat Mondraker ..


This bad boy is 800g less weight still with less spec suspension and a 1kg lighter/smaller battery ... I feel like I'm being fluffed ....... it's nice, don't get me wrong .. but .. just but ... I'll get my coat.

I think the point is if you ride an SL, even if it doesn't weigh that much less, it feels like it does when you ride it - the interest to me is if the Orbea has that same feeling - I rode a bog standard alloy SL, which was only just under 2kg lower weight than my hardtail EMTB, but it felt like it was a way bigger difference.

 

[R120]

Mine is around 17.5 KG with 160mm Ohlins RXF36 / TTX air and DHR2

Orbea is very impressive. I think it’ll end up being around 1kg heavier in equivalent build, but with the more powerful 60Nm motor and a decent saving in cost.

Not sure if I could put up with the EP8 rattle though in its current form.

In the GMBN vid you can hear the rattle very clearly

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

I think I'm still missing something .. we're a year on from the 19.3kg full fat Mondraker ..


This bad boy is 800g less weight still with less spec suspension and a 1kg lighter/smaller battery ... I feel like I'm being fluffed ....... it's nice, don't get me wrong .. but .. just but ... I'll get my coat.

Bang on to be honest. Although they are more like 20KG without the cheating Rekon tyres that have less tread than a pussy cats tongue

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

In the GMBN vid you can hear the rattle very clearly

It’s so bad. I know @TheBikePilot said it’s stop him buying the bike. In our experience it happened even on fire roads. Where as the Bosch only on proper choppy trails.

 

[Kentish]

I rather buy new Clio, this is going too far.. really

I’d be careful of the Clio. Think they use the Brose motor these them these days? ?

 

[michaeldorian]

No you mistake my point, the bike I really want is a Levo SL Evo with geometry like a Stumpy Evo, the appeal to me is the weight, the power a non issue, the SL is fine on that front for me.

However having said that if the Orbea comprises a similar package in terms of weight and handling, but with more power thrown in, thats far more appealing, plus if on group ride it has the ability to stay in the pack when everyone else is on a full fat, thats a big bonus, because thats a big issue with the SL if you are riding hilly terrain on a long ride with other EMTB's.

Plus in the absence (for the mean time) of a Levo SL Evo, the Orbeas geometry is far more in line with what i look for, and on paper a more capable bike.

Same for me. I want the SL with the new Stumpy EVO Geo. The SL geo is absolutely dated feeling. It’s the one thing holding the bike back.

 

[R120]

 

[Jimbo Vills]

Not read all the comments and seen the vids, just watched robs. I was torn on an orbea v levo when I bought mine. A levo

i want one of these tho ??‍