Orbea Rise 2025 buying doubt

[Ekaitz_B]

Hi everybody..i am Ekaitz from basquecountry
I have already written this in my presentation but i think this is a better place for it.
I am seriously appreciating ORBEA RISE and I have several doubts.
The M20SL comes with EP600RS engineThe M20LT comes with EP801RS.
the difference from one engine to another is weight or is there any difference in hardware or software plus?
The peak power max in EP801RS is 600W on the EP600RS as well? or is it 500W?
The difference from the SL to the LT apart from pneumatics, periphery etc....is only in shock travel and the bieleta and the fork?in that case what weighs more Fox36 would compensate for the less weight EP801RS
Once the M20LT has been chosen there would be some configuration problem if you download the FOX36 fork to 150mm and you change shock travel to 210x50 so that it stays 140mm?the shock surely wouldn't do it is simple information.
Or the same situation with de SL H20 or in this case the LT H10

 

[Ekaitz_B]

Hello again
to give de step to purchase LT or SL model_ SLM20 or LTM20/SLH20 or LTH10. For my ride style de SL model is enough but i have doubts with de EP600RS gen2 motor that is why i compare and find the EP801RS gen2
I don't see as much difference in geometry as to notice it, either. In M Size
The LT model in HIGH position: 64.5ºhead angle 77.5º seat angle_reach 460
The SL model: 65.5ºhead angle 78º seat angle_reach 465
Changing FOX 36 into 150 travel the LT model will stay "more less" in 65º head angle 77.75º seat angle and 462,5 reach...i know it is not real bur as an apreciation.
I don't think i would notice those little differences.
And with the same components(bar, dropper post, brakes etc), wheels, tires... they should weight similar compensating the weight of the fork36 with the motor diffenrence
Although for me a fox34 is enough, the fox 36 is welcome. I am 100kg
All this on paper and without having a clue, just an opinion

 

[Weeksy]

I think you're massively over-thinking it my friend. 140mm, 150mm, you will barely notice. 64.5deg or 65 deg, you'll barely notice.

 

[Ekaitz_B]

Yes you are right
My main doubt is the ep600rs or better the ep801rs
That is the main doubt and reason to choose one or the other one

 

[Weeksy]

I've got the EP6RS motor in my 23 Rise and LOVE it.. but compared to an 85Nm motor it's a bit slower on the tough climbs, but happily my mate is a bit less fit, so on those i just work a little harder
Personlly i think the 60Nm is perfect.... but that's just my opinion.

 

[bcmtb]

Yes you are right
My main doubt is the ep600rs or better the ep801rs
That is the main doubt and reason to choose one or the other one

Since you are asking and because of your weight, I would suggest going for the 801 instead of the 600.

 

[Ekaitz_B]

thanks all the answers
I haven't explained myself well.
My doubt is the motor. Orbea and shimano say that the EP600RS gen2 is almost the same than the EP801RS gen2 intead of the motor case (steel or magnesium) and the weight. both the same 85nm and firmware...
So is a goop choice the EP600Rs gen2 that means a cheaper bike and us the money to improve for example wheels, Bar and brakes. Or is better to afford de Ep801RS gen 2 and keep the bike as it comes but we all know that we will save or spend money to do the improvements so at the end there is a lot of money difference.

 

[Astro66]

The peak power max in EP801RS is 600W on the EP600RS as well? or is it 500W?

EP801 is 600W max. EP600 is 500W max.

EP600 doesn't get the extended over run in the new Firmware 4.3. EP801 does.

EP600 is 300grams heavier.

I would choose the EP801 if you have a choice.

 

[winsail]

I second Astro 66 suggestion the EP801RS is worth the extra money and functionality for me.

 

[Ekaitz_B]

hi,
thank you all for your answer and avice.
the choice is done...Ep801RS...
now waiting for a LTM20 or a LTH10 in stock near home...