Not sure to follow you when you say that EP8 is a much better motor. More sensitive to pedal pressure, you say?I'm really torn between the Rise and the SL (which have a steady stream of used ones on ebay). Aside from the downhill rattle and an extra 900g for motor and battery, the Shimano EP8 is a much better motor. Much quicker and more responsive to pedal pressure and more powerful if you want it. Also more tunable in the app. The Rise cockpit is more forward though so I might have to swap to a setback dropper to get the best pedaling position. Check out the video examinations of the motors.
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Assurance delivered is more supple on mahle motor, it has simply less torque. But it doesn’t mean assistance is any less reactive! Even maybe the contrary, but my test of EP8 equipped ebike was too limited to pronounce a judgement there.
What I can say for sure though, is that levo SL is definitively the most natural and dragless bike when reaching speed limit. And I tested Brose Bosch and EP8...
Does this alone compensate the less powerful motor, I guess it depends of your practice!
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