Light, cheap or strong, pick any two. Trek added the option of a 180mm fork, you need a strong frame to hang a 29er on a 180mm fork. Try that with the amflow and you may end up picking your teeth out of the dirt. I for one hope the Levo give us the option of more than trail travel.
Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours and some facts...
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47? That’s listed at 47.3 for the top build $12,800, which really means with pedals it will be more closer to 49lbs.
mtbrdan
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My Vala weighs 47.6 lbs with pedals and a tool wrap.
Martinizer
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lol, okay then using your math, a trek rail will really weigh 54 lbs. It‘s still 5 lbs more than a Vala.
sluette
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Could be... Sorry, but I can't read all the crap here anymore. Every second post screams about AmFlow or makes Brose look incapable of getting the new motor up and running. I thought the German forums were bad, but this takes the cake...
sethimus
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lots of bike old bitter bike karens around here.
FTFY. The more like a clockwork bike the better IMO and pretty much every SL/MW fits that criteria. Even Haibike have managed to make a good looking LW bike FFS!
800w battery and removable adds a lot of weight.The new levo with the big battery and proper tires weighs 50.6 lbs/23 kg +-
Polar
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Is it true the new Levo have double bottlecages?
Yes. It’s so you can use two range extenders
500 Miles on the Amflow now, I agree the current S Works Levo is a better bike on the down hill bits and its more agile. The DJI Motor though is from another place TQ and power wise, very smooth power across the range.
DuncanDoughnuts
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No Doubt that the Amflow is a lovely looking bike and at that price it will most defiantly chew at the sales of the Levo.
But I still believe that the Levo is the better bike as a complete ecosystem including dealer network.
Even with the motor failures (and I have had 5 across 3 levos) , I have never been without riding for longer than a few hours, the support network is just that good. And that in my opinion pushes Specialized far beyond anything else on the market.
Almost Every large city in South Africa has a specialized dealer..... Cape Town for example has 4 within a 70km radius. making it painless to get a motor sorted. (Which I did during a 3 day stage race , my motor was sounding crunchy after the first day .... sorted with a new motor in 2 hours and back in the race the next day)
As much as I would love to ride a Amflow. I need dealer support more than I need 110nm.
Agree with all of this, I had 5 S Works Levos from 18 great bikes and Spz service has been 2nd to none, even when out of warranty. Looking forwards to the new Gen 4 S works Levo v-soon.
lar1337
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How many bikes did you have?
Eduardoramundo
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I think 18 bikes is probably a shop (crap name) and that he has not had 25 bikes
Will someone please remind me how big the vala’s battery is? It’s 600wh, you want to compare that weak sauce trail bike to a Levo, please include the weight of range extender that my buddy has been waiting more than a month for.
Rando_12345
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This thread has gotten so toxic people are answering their own questions in anger.
Is it perhaps this company?I think 18 bikes is probably a shop (crap name) and that he has not had 25 bikes
I like you. Levo and Vala are both 160/150 trail bikes that can accommodate larger suspension. Vala has better range with a smaller battery. Like you said Trek is the best option right now, so you should buy one. Comparing Trek and Specialed to Santa Cruz is hilarious. I had a Rail, won't make that mistake again.
The comparison of an entry level 2025 vola and an entry 2025 Levo there is no comparison. Have you looked at the specs of the 2025?
You win but if you are paying MSRP for any bike in January you are pretty dumb. You can get a Vala R shipped to your door for $6,500 if you know where to look, carbon frame, latest Gen5 Bosch motor/battery and much sexier looking bike which is important to me. I got a great deal on the GX AXS Vala from my LBS and couldn't be happier. I'm probably the biggest poser on this forum so I don't need a big enduro bike my wheels barely ever leave the dirt.
Better range than a 700w? Sounds like a blanket statement from my experience with the 700w Levo and me asking an experienced rider, who's had many rides on his Vala.
I asked my LBS owner yesterday why he stopped selling SC(as the Vala interests me) and he told me that they weren't worth the hassle with all the problems the bikes have had, so there's that fact. I'm not knocking the Vala, just giving real world feedback. A small company gets bought out by a big corporation and it's NOT uncommon that quality goes south.
Anyway, back to the Specialized Gen 7, whenever it comes, it won't be under 10k for sometime.
lar1337
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Any way........when's this big reveal we're all waiting for happening?
Twin 1500wh removables, internal geared 150TQ motor, Fox factory 180 and Neo, Enve hydra rims with DH shredda radials and entry price £3800 was the rumour I heard
It better special-ised for making us all wait
Twin 1500wh removables, internal geared 150TQ motor, Fox factory 180 and Neo, Enve hydra rims with DH shredda radials and entry price £3800 was the rumour I heard
It better special-ised for making us all wait
Nope, its $3,250 with 5 years unlimited warranty, with 3 motor replacement per annum.Any way........when's this big reveal we're all waiting for happening?
Twin 1500wh removables, internal geared 150TQ motor, Fox factory 180 and Neo, Enve hydra rims with DH shredda radials and entry price £3800 was the rumour I heard
It better special-ised for making us all wait
Hey, as for your range claim…. Maybe watch Sam’s bikes, he seems to have an issue with what your claim.
Seems like the Brose won. Btw, my buddy with the vola that can’t seem to get the range extender runs out of juice way before my full power Kenevo.
How was the stroganoff?
What’s for dinner?
Its already running a 65mm stroke shock, not sure you're gonna get any more out of it.
Although in the High position, it gives 162mm rear travel.
Ehh definitely not that dude is a bigger Specialed fanboy than you. I already bought the bike I wanted, so it really doesn’t matter. Only other bike that was on my radar was the Pivot Shuttle AM but I wanted the Gen5 drive unit.
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