Levo Gen 3 Levo Gen 4 2024 Rumours... And assorted random chat ....

[gbcoke]

Let’s hope they knock that weight down to 20k

Let’s hope they knock that weight down to 20kg

S-works should be around 22kg.

 

[DS.]

Yeah with a gearbox

 

[#lazy]

Let’s hope they knock that weight down to 20kg

Just go on a diet for 6 months , you’ll save money v spending money on lighter bits

 

[mustclime]

Well specialized just dropped the new Status 140/170. They share the same front triangle with the shock mounted on the down tube. This could the model for the new Kenevo/levo.

Status - Specialized

www.specialized.com

 

[CalebDC]

Well specialized just dropped the new Status 140/170. They share the same front triangle with the shock mounted on the down tube. This could the model for the new Kenevo/levo.

Status - Specialized

www.specialized.com

The Status has always been an outlier when it comes to longer travel bikes. The whole marketing scheme with specialized is "Forget the status quo". Where the status lineup is moreso of a affordable big hitter for groms and budget minded individuals. Where the big hit/status was an entry level dh bike. The electric lineup can be affordable but not in that segment necessarily. I would imagine more geo changes and maybe the new genie suspension tech. They spent all that money on production, might as well put it on more than one bike.

 

[DS.]

Don’t think everyone is fat or need to lose weight

 

[James_C]

speaking to berkshire cycles kenevos have been sold out for months.

Im in the market for a long travel DH focussed ebike, so I hope something new comes out soon.

 

[Ribinrobin]

speaking to berkshire cycles kenevos have been sold out for months.

Im in the market for a long travel DH focussed ebike, so I hope something new comes out soon.

They’ve been discontinued apparently.

 

[Lightme]

speaking to berkshire cycles kenevos have been sold out for months.

Im in the market for a long travel DH focussed ebike, so I hope something new comes out soon.

Crestline

 

[head]

Don’t think everyone is fat or need to lose weight

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Holy moly! That’s a big jump!!!

 

[Ou812]

Crestline

I want a Crestline but it’s basically impossible to buy one. The way they do their “drops” is annoying. It reminds me of the kids and their sneakers, waiting in line for days to buy the next AF1s.

 

[mustclime]

I want a Crestline but it’s basically impossible to buy one. The way they do their “drops” is annoying. It reminds me of the kids and their sneakers, waiting in line for days to buy the next AF1s.

Over priced Santa Cruz bullet, now that there is the new software for the ep801, the drive unit is no longer an a issue.

 

[electricbogaloo]

S-works should be around 22kg.

Gen3 weighes the same.

 

[gbcoke]

Gen3 weighes the same.

Gen4 has an 880wh battery and a 110nm motor so better specs at the same weight is a win imho.

 

[salko]

But how much 880wh battery weights?

 

[Rando_12345]

But how much 880wh battery weights?

All the last announced systems have roughly 220Wh/kg pack densities, which would put the pack at 4kg. Spesh usually pride themselves on being ahead of the competition (at launch), but I find it hard to believe they would do much better than that unless the bike is coming out in a year using some upcoming battery tech.

 

[Ribinrobin]

All the last announced systems have roughly 220Wh/kg pack densities, which would put the pack at 4kg. Spesh usually pride themselves on being ahead of the competition (at launch), but I find it hard to believe they would do much better than that unless the bike is coming out in a year using some upcoming battery tech.

They are definitely falling behind with the SL bikes, Hopefully the new levo shakes things up a bit.

 

[gbcoke]

With a Fox38/ZEB,proper tires,big battery and a full power motor it's very hard to go under 22kg.
The Orbea Rise LT is above 20kg and that is with a 36 and a battery which is 1kg+ lighter.
In the end a bike is a sum of all it's parts and there is very little room for losing significant weight.

 

[Mikerb]

lighter weight is more of a marketing ploy than a specific riding benefit. Its relatively easy to make a lightweight emtb. XC tyres, carbon everything, small battery, half powered motor..................... expensive and all big compromises even for a trail bike let alone an enduro bike!!
AND

DJI have just blown the whole half fat bike concept out of the window!!

Whatever Specialized had planned for the gen4 Levo it has probably already been superceeded! Back to the drawing board I reckon!!

The only ways i can see a prime player like Specialized maintaining their position as the innovator and market leader is to actually deliver what most EMTB riders want

Extended warranty for motor and battery.
Vastly improved water protection of motor and electrical circuits
Battery choice......both with significantly better capacity and lower weights
better value pricing/ maybe different purchase models like leasing.

 

[Saddlerags]

All the last announced systems have roughly 220Wh/kg pack densities, which would put the pack at 4kg. Spesh usually pride themselves on being ahead of the competition (at launch), but I find it hard to believe they would do much better than that unless the bike is coming out in a year using some upcoming battery tech.

It’s good to have a ballpark on the battery weights. Hopefully they release a smaller option to the 880. A 650ish would be perfect and would come in around 3kg, which is lighter than the current 500. All that and a 110nm motor sounds pretty awesome to me.

I know a lot of the excitement and focus is on the tech and weight, but I think a greater interest for me will be in any geo and travel updates. I can see a short and long chain stay option to allow for those that want full 29 (I’m a mullet all the way guy) and a +_ 5mm reach adjust (a la Crestline). 170mm travel would be spot on while I’m wishing.

If the bike is released in the fall is the dealer press camp anytime soon?

 

[Eduardoramundo]

It’s good to have a ballpark on the battery weights. Hopefully they release a smaller option to the 880. A 650ish would be perfect and would come in around 3kg, which is lighter than the current 500. All that and a 110nm motor sounds pretty awesome to me.

I know a lot of the excitement and focus is on the tech and weight, but I think a greater interest for me will be in any geo and travel updates. I can see a short and long chain stay option to allow for those that want full 29 (I’m a mullet all the way guy) and a +_ 5mm reach adjust (a la Crestline). 170mm travel would be spot on while I’m wishing.

If the bike is released in the fall is the dealer press camp anytime soon?

I think the dealer press camp was about 12 months ago.

 

[OZI]

S-works should be around 22kg.

That is the weight of the current Levo CARBON COMP with the 500Wh battery. I believe that the new Levo could easily weigh less than 21Kg with one of the new 600Wh batteries.

 

[gbcoke]

That is the weight of the current Levo CARBON COMP with the 500Wh battery. I believe that the new Levo could easily weigh less than 21Kg with one of the new 600Wh batteries.

From what I understand there is no small battery planned.

 

[electricbogaloo]

If that's the case this would be a bummer because I notice a huge difference in handling on trails with a bike that has a lower center of gravity and weighs one, two or even three kg or more less. The big batteries have the downside of being very long which raises the center of gravity significantly and it makes the bike harder to throw around and correct it on narrow, twisty natural trails that are ridden fast.

On most rides you won't need an 880wh battery I don't even need the 700 wh because I'm only weighing 70kg. So the 500wh is the sweetspot for me and the bike is significantly lighter and handles better.

 

[zerofunds]

People that complain about ebike weights have never ridden motocross and it shows lol

 

[DS.]

WHAT Another one? Rode for 10 years MATE

 

[gbcoke]

If that's the case this would be a bummer because I notice a huge difference in handling on trails with a bike that has a lower center of gravity and weighs one, two or even three kg or more less. The big batteries have the downside of being very long which raises the center of gravity significantly and it makes the bike harder to throw around and correct it on narrow, twisty natural trails that are ridden fast.

On most rides you won't need an 880wh battery I don't even need the 700 wh because I'm only weighing 70kg. So the 500wh is the sweetspot for me and the bike is significantly lighter and handles better.

Think about it from a commercial pov. Is there really a reason to develop another smaller battery?
Bosch has 500/625 option for the gen 4 motor and I dont know any peaple that replaced their 750 with a 500 or even got another 500 as spare.

 

[Ou812]

People that complain about ebike weights have never ridden motocross and it shows lol

Or didn’t ride free ride bikes in the early 2000s

 

[Dave_B]

I’ve been told it will be a Brose motor. More efficient. With a choice of battery size.

 

[James_C]

I’ve been told it will be a Brose motor. More efficient. With a choice of battery size.

will this one be letting in gallons of gritty water at every opportunity I wonder