Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours Born-Again

[TorAtle]

Power requirement on a tough climb quickly exceed what the standard "full fat" motors available today (not including DJI Avinox) can output, unless you find a crawling speed acceptable.

As the motors now goes beyond 600 watts, the max assistance in % also need to be increased. DJI chose 8x or 800%.

I find the comparison with cars inaccurate as todays cars have an abundance of torque and power, especially electric cars. Not so on emtbs.

The benchmark is set. 1000 Watts, 120 Nm, 800% assistance, the motor weighs 2.5 kg and as per all the reviews - the motor control is excellent. This is what Spesh is up against. Lets hope the new Levo will not disappoint, it's going to be here for at least 3 years.

 

[AussieRuss]

Good to see the sneak peak pics are up on Specializeds page. Charge port is no longer hidden. Or is that where the extender plugs in?
Looks like the controller is cable run again.

 

[Borut]

Expert

 

[Borut]

Comp

 

[Ferlic]

 

[Ferlic]

 

[Ferlic]

 

[Tooks]

Come the release date, I can’t help but think this cartoon will be pretty apt given the ‘no wireless controller is a deal breaker’ type chat!

 

[emtbeast]

That was with the first firmware.
Now the graph from the same magazine is this:

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Lets wait for the line of the new Levo….

Sorry, but the guys saying the Levo could provide more torque at lower cadences are probably on to something. The guys from Specialized also pointed in one of their last year interviews they are working on a good cadence curve, also Brose motor was always good at that. This low down torque is mostly based on the motor mechanicals, not software-the larger the big internal motor gear the more torque down under there is, the previous Giant motor was/is also a good example.

To clear things a bit, the graph u posted is not the correct graph to compare to the other one:

The graph you are posting is Power based at almost(75-80) fixed Cadence input:

》Bike power output(vertical) based on Rider power input(horizontal)《.

The previous graph, the one you are answering to is Cadence based on fixed Power input:

》Bike power in %(vertical) based on Rider Cadence input(horizontal)《.


Shortly, the base for the graph is different so you can't compare it, one is a so called Power Curve the other ia a Cadence Curve.

Unfortunately Velomotion Magazin didn't include the Cadence Curve Graph in their video done after the Amflow software update, I don't know why, maybe they could provide one if asked.

 

[Zimmerframe]

It’s definitely not as svelte as some other brands……….

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A rough comparison with a couple of random bikes .... (scales are not accurate ..)

 

[Zimmerframe]

So in theory ..... they could do this now ??

 

[Moderator]

New thread created here as too few people are reading back and repeat posting previous information.

Original thread is here if anyone wants to look back :

Levo Gen 4 - Levo Gen 4 Rumours and some facts...

So come on, let’s have them. Rumours only and no truths please, so the thread doesn’t get taken down 😉

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[ah1]

Will there be issues with the motor bottom clearance? I see that it's protruding further forward, so I'm assuming if I hit stuff with my BB on my Levo SL (which I sometimes do), the impact will be harder/sooner with the gen4?
(Someone else posted this photo comparison of the motors before the old thread got shut down. )