Levo Gen 3 Levo Gen 4 2023/4/5/6 Rumours...

[MTB-WALES]

I finally went for the Vala, don't care anymore what they going to launch and if or when....the Specialized App is utter shit! And their communication is non-existent. Wouldn't be surprised if the declare bankruptcy this year!

carry on pre- justifying your purchase before the one bike to rule them all launches

 

[roccobarocco]

I already own a levo gen 3, 2 motors so far....can only be better with the Vala!

 

[MTB-WALES]

I already own a levo gen 3, 2 motors so far....can only be better with the Vala!

Yes feel your pain I went with fazua twice and 4 motors over all! One thing you are getting with the vala is reliability and a very balanced bike. I had the heckler sl but didnt quite do it for me. If I don’t end up going for the Levo I’d go with the vala and a range extender hope you enjoy it.

 

[DuncanDoughnuts]

Also went Vala.
been begging specialized for a few months now to either fix the app or allow us to use the old one again which was better.

Very happy with my purchase. If the new Gen4 is a real "game changer" (I really hate that phrase) then I can always sell the Vala and get it. But im done waiting and loosing a whole season of riding.

 

[Dax]

I finally went for the Vala, don't care anymore what they going to launch and if or when....the Specialized App is utter shit!

I’ve never really understood the need for apps to ride bikes. If you want to track, use Strava or buy a garmin. Then just go ride the bike. Sure there’s the handful of times when you need to adjust the power levels, but I find they are generally a set and forget thing.

 

[Doomanic]

Buy a Garmin? Do people actually do that?

 

[roccobarocco]

No, but the App is useful for changeging configuration and custom tune the motor. My phone is in the backpack while I ride and it's recording the ride. Moreover, doing Firmware updates would also be convenient as it was with Mission Control.

 

[ckkone]

If the new Gen4 is a real "game changer" (I really hate that phrase) then I can always sell the Vala and get it. But im done waiting and loosing a whole season of riding.

All the specs have already been leaked in this thread (there is even a picture of it a few pages back). It looks like the SL but has a giant down tube, unfortunately still a Brose motor and will be heavier than the competition. It will be slammed full of gimmicky things and have lots of adjustments for riders who have no idea what they want and social media influencers to talk about. End of the day by the time the lower end models drop it will be 2 year old tech and lagging behind everything else.

I'm still excited to see it but I personally wouldn't be caught dead riding a Specialed.

 

[DylanJM]

All the specs have already been leaked in this thread (there is even a picture of it a few pages back). It looks like the SL but has a giant down tube, unfortunately still a Brose motor and will be heavier than the competition. It will be slammed full of gimmicky things and have lots of adjustments for riders who have no idea what they want and social media influencers to talk about. End of the day by the time the lower end models drop it will be 2 year old tech and lagging behind everything else.

I'm still excited to see it but I personally wouldn't be caught dead riding a Specialed.

Please tell me where there was a pic of it posted? Or are you talking about those screenshots from Lioc Bruni’s Instagram?

 

[Georgedukesa]

Please tell me where there was a pic of it posted? Or are you talking about those screenshots from Lioc Bruni’s Instagram?

Ya me to would like to see these pics

 

[gbcoke]

The pic was of a Levo SL.
There is no pic of the gen4 here (or anywhere).

 

[Dax]

No, but the App is useful for changeging configuration and custom tune the motor.

How often do you do that? For me it’s somewhere between ‘once a year’ and ‘once’.

My phone is in the backpack while I ride and it's recording the ride. Moreover, doing Firmware updates would also be convenient as it was with Mission Control.

Try Strava or buy/get given a Fenix, they’re much better for recording rides.

 

[Georgedukesa]

Ya me to would like to see these pics

And if it’s anything like gen 3 it’s still a good e-bike the gen 3 is on par with the top new 2025 completion models top 5 including the DJI so it really doesn’t need to do much except be slightly better and you get a (no matter what anyone says) phenomenal e-bike that doesn’t only look good rides like a bat outa hell , everyone has their own taste and honestly allot of Bike for just about anyone. I’m so frikken excited to get mine and yes I love the fact that it has bells and whistles and 110 Nm in turbo (SWorks) a 800 watt hour battery can’t wait to mess around on that bike and learn to ride it with a mullet or straight 29er .This whole discussion that’s 64 pages long is about one bike that’s being launched
So maybe it doesn’t blow everyone out of the water because other models are getting just that good at making bikes but that’s also because of what Specialized did at grass roots when they launched the first e-bikes and the past gens that they came out with , and everyone else has been playing catch up
So let’s see April is almost and pretty friken sure it’s going to be my best new bike day ever (or at least till gen 5 drops )

 

[Georgedukesa]

The pic was of a Levo SL.
There is no pic of the gen4 here (or anywhere).

Straight up

 

[roccobarocco]

How often do you do that? For me it’s somewhere between ‘once a year’ and ‘once’.



Try Strava or buy/get given a Fenix, they’re much better for recording rides.

I hate Strava, as said MC worked fine for me, since they changed the App I can't even save my profiles for motor configuration. I used that feature quite regularly. Also the Bike Lock is convenient. Firmware update is a neat function, and most of us appreciate not to drive to the bike shop in order to update the software.
If you don't use the App that's fine some of us do. There is no judgement here!

 

[Polar]

G3 won't get worse when G4 arrives and most important comments ain't NM and tech but sperm and eggs.
Prove me wrong.

 

[Doomanic]

get given a Fenix

Oh yeah, people do that all the time.

Which reminds me, have you upgraded yet? I fancy some new bling…

 

[Dax]

Oh yeah, people do that all the time.

Which reminds me, have you upgraded yet? I fancy some new bling…

Seems like the normal way you get a garmin?

 

[Doomanic]

This is the way.

 

[AussieRuss]

All the specs have already been leaked in this thread (there is even a picture of it a few pages back). It looks like the SL but has a giant down tube, unfortunately still a Brose motor and will be heavier than the competition. It will be slammed full of gimmicky things and have lots of adjustments for riders who have no idea what they want and social media influencers to talk about. End of the day by the time the lower end models drop it will be 2 year old tech and lagging behind everything else.

I'm still excited to see it but I personally wouldn't be caught dead riding a Specialed.

Specialized will hardly be 2 years behind.

Even if the only change was to move to a 48 volt (up from the current 36volt system) gear drive Brose motor they are ahead of pretty much every other big brand for full power ebikes.

No doubt other full power big name players will follow suit in upcoming models by also moving to 48 volt systems for efficiency gains.

 

[DuncanDoughnuts]

How often do you do that? For me it’s somewhere between ‘once a year’ and ‘once’.



Try Strava or buy/get given a Fenix, they’re much better for recording rides.

Every ride... I ride with multiple groups during the week. each group requires different settings. I use to be able to use presets for those groups... that is no longer available. At least bring that back

 

[markom]

Regarding gen3 discounts, this looks quite nice, not bad price for a PRO:

https://www.bike24.com/p2793329.html

As for the Gen4 - I visited local Spesh service center in my city and they told me:
Gen4 - will be available in April
Will have new Brose motor
Motor doesn't have belt

I don't know what to think about it, but they looked pretty convicing.

Anyway, I was tired of waiting and I boutht Striven . Will wait till next year for first "beta users" of new Levo to work out potential issues and then we will see.

hi, I have an ohlins ttxm2 210x55 I was about to sell it, does anyone know if it will mount on gen4?

 

[dirt-diggler]

This thread has successfully made me want a vala over the new levo. I didn't even know I wanted a new bike lol

 

[David666]

Why do you speak about Levo or Vala ? I thought it was an AmFlow thread.

 

[Ride 2d@y]

Why do you speak about Levo or Vala ? I thought it was an AmFlow thread.

With a little Rail thrown in for shits and giggles

 

[mustclime]

This thread has successfully made me want a vala over the new levo. I didn't even know I wanted a new bike lol

Vala= 600wh battery….. deal breaker. A buddy in my group rides has a Yamaha Moro with a 500wh battery and he ether bails or runs out of juice every ride. The Yamaha motor is much more efficient than the Bosch unit.

 

[DuncanDoughnuts]

Vala= 600wh battery….. deal breaker. A buddy in my group rides has a Yamaha Moro with a 500wh battery and the ether bails or runs out of juice every ride. The Yamaha motor is much more efficient than the Bosch unit.

600 for my daily weekly rides ...... 600 +250 RE for my weekend long slogs with my 700wh Specialized mates.

 

[Phil M]

Vala= 600wh battery….. deal breaker. A buddy in my group rides has a Yamaha Moro with a 500wh battery and the ether bails or runs out of juice every ride. The Yamaha motor is much more efficient than the Bosch unit.

Same for me..

I’d have to use the RE pretty much every ride. Not doing that.

 

[robikinkela]

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/5-emtb-motors-review-bosch-dji-shimano-sram-specialized-2025.html

Decent watch

What really amazes me is how little behind the others the Brose engine is, despite being so many years old!

 

[Ride 2d@y]

What really amazes me is how little behind the others the Brose engine is, despite being so many years old!

Just thought of something - in regard to price, features and AVAILABILITY, a discounted G3 Levo is probably smart buy, right?