MartinW148
Member
round you say... mine are flat, but only at the bottom!
Just say no to 29ers
- Thread starter Eddy Current
- Start date
I find trek geometry for 29 so good that have bought a superfly and a stache. Someday will have an ebike from trek too.I just said yes to a 29er Trek Rail
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I'm going to lose a few of you with this next preference, but after 10 years of experimentation I really am not the biggest fan of tubeless tyres. The eMTB is on the originally supplied tubed 2.35 super gravity magic marys - good gravity casings have the feel I like and tubes add to that. Thin out the casing and the feel gets more pingy / less connected. Take the tubes out and it gets skittish. Make 'em bigger and they just roll and squirm in the corners. Lower pressures are gash (see other thread).”=QUOTE]
I use tubeless on my bikes but did not yet feel the need to set the ebike tubeless. But am using sealant inside the cameras with removable core valves and it works a treat, no trailside repair needed after the first year and 1300 km.
I'm going to lose a few of you with this next preference, but after 10 years of experimentation I really am not the biggest fan of tubeless tyres. The eMTB is on the originally supplied tubed 2.35 super gravity magic marys - good gravity casings have the feel I like and tubes add to that. Thin out the casing and the feel gets more pingy / less connected. Take the tubes out and it gets skittish. Make 'em bigger and they just roll and squirm in the corners. Lower pressures are gash (see other thread).”=QUOTE]
I use tubeless on my bikes but did not yet feel the need to set the ebike tubeless. But am using sealant inside the cameras with removable core valves and it works a treat, no trailside repair needed after the first year and 1300 km.
Eddy Current
E*POWAH Master
- Thread starter
- #34
In the 2015 the new golden calf was released. Integrated battery, the first original sin. What’s bring to ebikes? Nothing but aesthetics. What they other brands do? Integrate their battery because it’s was cool!
In 2019 this was already nothing cool, nothing new
So what’s the new golden calf has to do to keep their his faithful? A new cool thing
Hey, if we put 29ers? What? 29ers in enduro? Yeah men, this was tried this before, in XC bikes, and it was the bomb! Wait, did you know Schurter was racing 27.5 until 2016 and still win? Men, I don’t care what Nino does, we want to sell. But these wheels are heavier, are less nimble than 27.5, they flex more ... ahahaha! leave that to me, I did it a million times before
And 2020 all the other brands has to follow the 29er trend because it’s what the golden calf wear.
End of the story. Millions of people eat shitty burgers and that doesn’t mean they are good.
In 2019 this was already nothing cool, nothing new
So what’s the new golden calf has to do to keep their his faithful? A new cool thing
Hey, if we put 29ers? What? 29ers in enduro? Yeah men, this was tried this before, in XC bikes, and it was the bomb! Wait, did you know Schurter was racing 27.5 until 2016 and still win? Men, I don’t care what Nino does, we want to sell. But these wheels are heavier, are less nimble than 27.5, they flex more ... ahahaha! leave that to me, I did it a million times before
And 2020 all the other brands has to follow the 29er trend because it’s what the golden calf wear.
End of the story. Millions of people eat shitty burgers and that doesn’t mean they are good.
The Flying Dutchman
E*POWAH Master
@Eddy Current please stop inhaling degreaser before posting
Eddy Current
E*POWAH Master
- Thread starter
- #36
Maybe you need to learn about what marketing is
Did you know basketball shoes begin as an specific sport shoes and end as a fashion shoe?
Your grammar hurts my brain.
The Flying Dutchman
E*POWAH Master
Wait, hold on a second there!...So you're saying basketball shoes were designed for basketball??
Lay off the hashish....Next you'll be saying that bottled water is just regular water, but in a bottle.
Rusty
E*POWAH BOSS
WRONG. Integrated batteries allow for not only cleaner lines but also allow for not only better strength per design as cut-aways for semi-integrated batteries require extra material to strengthen things but also allow for far better suspension systems while also allowing for a bottle cage. I could add more, but since you are totally clueless about the evolution of the 650b wheel it would be a waste of time.
It’s Red33 in disguise
Swan
Well-known member
I ride 29ers, with clipless pedals, occasionally in spandex and I'll place bets that I jump my Levo bigger than everyone in the forum. Sometimes bigger than the biggest jump of multiple members records combined.
My Levo has done 45ft senders, slope style jumps where apex of jump is 20+ feet off the ground, and 15ft drops... My 29" wheels, clipless pedals and spandex didn't hold the bike back at all in those moves.
Here is a quick clip of what the "warm up" jumps are before our bigger slopestyle jumps.. I am 6'3 and that's my XL for scale. Haha
My Levo has done 45ft senders, slope style jumps where apex of jump is 20+ feet off the ground, and 15ft drops... My 29" wheels, clipless pedals and spandex didn't hold the bike back at all in those moves.
Here is a quick clip of what the "warm up" jumps are before our bigger slopestyle jumps.. I am 6'3 and that's my XL for scale. Haha
Dangerously approaching ??
Get off your high horse, people like different things, get over it...
Eddy Current
E*POWAH Master
- Thread starter
- #44
You can ride what you like off course. That’s not my complaint, is not 27.5 vs 29 it’s about ”please don’t kill the 27.5“
Im the Greta Thunberg of the ebikes
You humans are disgusting
Rusty
E*POWAH BOSS
hell, not only should they kill 27.5 ... they should bury it forever.
Until the marketing guys run out of things to sell the bike, then they will bring it back and all the trend followers will oooooh & aaaahhh all over it.
Until the marketing guys run out of things to sell the bike, then they will bring it back and all the trend followers will oooooh & aaaahhh all over it.
Just an old guy who loves to ride. I previously rode a 2016 Turbo Levo Aluminium with the 27.5 plus tires. I now own a 2019 Turbo Levo Expert Carbon with 2.6" 29rs and find this bike better handling and more fun to ride. Don't really care which specs make me like it better, I just do. No rant, just feel lucky to have such a great machine
It’s all a little confusing to be honest... but isn’t a 27.5 x 28 technically a 29er ?
There are people who don’t want enduro.... just want comfy 120 travel , fast 29 wheels with great Look clipless pedals and ride places (mountain ranges) , where the would last only 2 hours on a regular bike and get 4 hours on an emtb. , and yes in Lycra
NewLifeLevo
Member
Fun, humorous, political, prejudice, experience, geo... it's not about the bike!
As a long term 29er fan, well before it became fashionable, it suited my riding style for many years focused on cross country. Modern geometries have corrected a lot of the monster truck handling issues, but not all – the physics of the 700c wheel has, like any other wheel size, its own characteristics, both pro and con.
My '19 Levo is a 29er and handled well after re-doing the suspension for performance on trails in BC (Canada). My last bike was a Niner RDO (short travel cross-country) I had converted to a mullet bike to make it work better as a trail bike (slacker). I loved it. I've since converted the Levo to a Mullet as I've posted before. The difference in handling dynamics, agility and fun are significant. Putting the bike exactly where I want, more control and not standing up in corners are some of the benefits for me. More confidence and more control = more speed (which I'd agree may be somewhat perceived versus actual). The rear wheel with 35mm rim combined with a Magic Mary 27.5 2.8 is a beast and turns the original bike, to use a moto analogy, from a 2-stroke (29er) to a 4-stroke (mullet) - torquey and planted. But wait, there's more. For kicks and giggles, I put the same wheel/tire combo on the front! As a 27.5 bike now, it's like a totally different riding bike: a huge difference. More of the positive qualities of the Mullet bike (agility, control), more 4-stroke-ish, and more comfort, although it feels slower! I haven't finished my wheel roulette riding experiences. Likely the 27.5 is perfect for winter riding here (mud, rain, slippery roots) and mullet for everything else!
As a long term 29er fan, well before it became fashionable, it suited my riding style for many years focused on cross country. Modern geometries have corrected a lot of the monster truck handling issues, but not all – the physics of the 700c wheel has, like any other wheel size, its own characteristics, both pro and con.
My '19 Levo is a 29er and handled well after re-doing the suspension for performance on trails in BC (Canada). My last bike was a Niner RDO (short travel cross-country) I had converted to a mullet bike to make it work better as a trail bike (slacker). I loved it. I've since converted the Levo to a Mullet as I've posted before. The difference in handling dynamics, agility and fun are significant. Putting the bike exactly where I want, more control and not standing up in corners are some of the benefits for me. More confidence and more control = more speed (which I'd agree may be somewhat perceived versus actual). The rear wheel with 35mm rim combined with a Magic Mary 27.5 2.8 is a beast and turns the original bike, to use a moto analogy, from a 2-stroke (29er) to a 4-stroke (mullet) - torquey and planted. But wait, there's more. For kicks and giggles, I put the same wheel/tire combo on the front! As a 27.5 bike now, it's like a totally different riding bike: a huge difference. More of the positive qualities of the Mullet bike (agility, control), more 4-stroke-ish, and more comfort, although it feels slower! I haven't finished my wheel roulette riding experiences. Likely the 27.5 is perfect for winter riding here (mud, rain, slippery roots) and mullet for everything else!
Mattwilko92
Well-known member
I rode my Levo with the 29 roval wheels that came with it for 3 months. It did roll over stuff better. However since switching to 27.5+ its more playful and rewarding when hitting the trails. I prefer the 27.5 but its not a bad bike with the 29ers. If it wasn’t for my gear acquisition syndrome i probably would have kept it.
ninjichor
New Member
Isn't "just say no" a meme, that makes fun of how such advice doesn't work very well?
Eddy Current
E*POWAH Master
- Thread starter
- #52
Gentlemans, say what you want.
But the real enduro ebikes, none are full 29er. Norco isn’t. Rocky Mountain isn’t, Whyte isn’t, Pivot isn’t, etc.
If you want an all rounder trail ebike 29er it’s maybe ok on the front but I think ebikes are born for enduro, more or less aggressive but enduro. 455 chainstays? Dude that’s a train!
Like i said 29ers born for XC, it’s a round thing so at the end it works and works better in some situations but 29er is not for enduro, and no brand that wants to offer a real enduro ebike fit 29ers.
Thas a FACT
But the real enduro ebikes, none are full 29er. Norco isn’t. Rocky Mountain isn’t, Whyte isn’t, Pivot isn’t, etc.
If you want an all rounder trail ebike 29er it’s maybe ok on the front but I think ebikes are born for enduro, more or less aggressive but enduro. 455 chainstays? Dude that’s a train!
Like i said 29ers born for XC, it’s a round thing so at the end it works and works better in some situations but 29er is not for enduro, and no brand that wants to offer a real enduro ebike fit 29ers.
Thas a FACT
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Rusty
E*POWAH BOSS
What a load of ........................
Eddy Current
E*POWAH Master
- Thread starter
- #54
Go and tell it to those manufactures... hey 29ers are better everybody knows, Levos are 29ers! Why you ebikes are 27.5?
Rusty
E*POWAH BOSS
Because they charge more and rely on trend followers like you to lap it up.
All of the bigger manufacturers have 29ers as their Trail & Enduro bikes with 27.5 options.
In other words they put 27.5+ wheels on a 29er.
Corrected for you.
Why have taken it upon yourself to wage a war against a bicycle wheel size, go focus your energy somewhere else?
You do realise that all those brands you’ve listed make 29er enduro bikes???
Norco Range, Pivot Firebird 29, Rocky Mountain Slayer and G-170 29er.
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Eddy Current
E*POWAH Master
- Thread starter
- #59
Not in their enduro ebikes. Also in the normal bikes, the top of the range (carbon frames etc) all come in 27.5, not plus. Mach is 27.5, Altitude is 27.5.
Still you don’t understand my argument, Im not against the 29er, I’m against the 29er predatory trend I don’t want 27.5 became the 26 almost extinct.
@Gary did i mention Schurter wins up to 2016 on 27.5?
Eddy Current
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- #60
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