Important safety note from Canyon: the Spectral:ON CF / CFR and Torque:ON CF models may have damage to the battery

Winford

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Oct 29, 2024
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auburn ca
In the UK it depends who your contract of sale is with, don't know about non-UK
here the shimano warranty is actually on the battery itself, as is the wiring cable and obviously the motor. Yours should be the same. Canyon will be required to notify you, but its shimanos responsibility
 

Winford

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Oct 29, 2024
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auburn ca
They also seem to think a replacement battery is on its way
so the canyon page at their site, says we will contact you later, after we figure out what the next steps will be.

I would not assume a new battery is coming just yet, because next step may be an inspection by your nearest Shimano tech. I honestly doubt this. But its how they worded it. They left the door open.

This is all a legal issue, and like car dealers, a stop sale of effected products until there is a resolution that returns the end user to a safe product.
 

Zed.

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Apr 26, 2023
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I would not assume a new battery is coming just yet, because next step may be an inspection by your nearest Shimano tech. I honestly doubt this. But its how they worded it. They left the door open.

agreed, its in the hands of the legal profession now 🤷‍♂️
as to inspection, thats a longterm rolling lifetime of inspection as its probable that all plastic casings will fail eventually:unsure:

Rich. (waiting hopefully for a resolution🤞)
 

whitymon

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Nov 29, 2023
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Hello! A new owner from basque country! Spectral cf9 900wh batery.
I have a month to a free retourn of the bike. Waiting news...
If you can return the bike I would do it - even if it is expensive and cumbersome to do.

If the faults issues are by design, there is really not much they will do and the window of solution is clearly unknown.

Do not want to be dramatic but here is it.
 

Lexle

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Jun 4, 2023
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I also have a battery and I would think that 4 weeks is a VERY optimistic estimate if the solution is a new battery given sourcing leadtimes and 2 weeks of boat shipment from Asia. I assume that Trendpower will be footing the bill as it is likely due to there process control. It looks like most failures are at the screw boss and I would guess it is due to issues with control of a ultrasonic insertion process.
Shipping from China to Europe by ship is currently around 10 week (shipping is not going thru Suez currently) The bosses are mostly a warm inserting , not ultrasonic
 

72dan

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Sep 20, 2024
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Full notice - Mandatory battery check and safety notice

Extract:
„Understanding the issue
The batteries used for our E-bikes are sourced from reputable companies and tested to meet or exceed industry standards. We have been notified that a small number of batteries may be liable to damage the housing appearing as small cracks, gaps or similar.

In rare circumstances, this could allow moisture inside the battery, potentially triggering a short-circuit that bypasses the fail-safe protection mechanisms. Whilst extremely unlikely, we cannot rule out that a damaged battery might catch on fire, resulting in a risk of personal injury or damage to property.

We must instruct you to please stop using any of the affected batteries in your bike and to not charge them.
….“
Can the original battery be wrapped in either black electrical tape of a pvc heat shrink sleeve like when building a battery pack to add integrity and prevent cracking and also waterproofing it?
 

72dan

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Sep 20, 2024
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The guy who owns this battery has tried epoxy resin fixes with temporary success :

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I fly some carbon fiber RC planes and also am a large distributor of water treatment equipment. I have similar blind nuts that are in wing attachments for my RC planes, these are 7,000 watt 180 planes, and in large commercial Reverse Osmosis we use similar on the membrane end plastic caps. Thicker material and on the membrane end caps everyone finally ended up with a stainless steel insert in the mold around those blind nuts to distribute the load. If plastics are left in long enough there is distortion when it is removed from a mold.
 

hctagalong

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Jun 29, 2024
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Minnesota
Hoping they are quicker than 4 weeks, im effected, and 4 buddies with a CF8s and a CFR. My bike has been shutting off randomly since I bought it. Shimano replaced the wiring harness once, and they replaced the EP801 motor. Its probably been the battery the whole time. After they replace something it works great for a few days, thern back to shuttig down on rides. Other then that, the bike is awesome. I keep getting trophies on strava in the endurance capitol of the world.
Mine too (as discussed here) with random cutouts. @Winford you think it's a thermal problem with the battery? Do you have confirmation about that? Have you seen related error codes showing battery thermal issues? For mine, no error codes / it's a mystery. I have received the warrantied wire + battery but not a motor replacement. Now I'm not supposed to be riding it so...my warranty duration ticks away while the rig sits in my garage.
 

irie

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You have effectively been told by the bike manufacturer that the product is not fit for the purpose for which it was sold. Return the bike and demand a full refund.
 

Winford

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Oct 29, 2024
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auburn ca
you think it's a thermal problem with the battery?
What im leaning towards is that these bikes do not like water. I kept my bike and drivetrain spotless because they go through cassettes and chains and brake pads and rotors so quickly. They replaced my motor and wring harness, and now they want to do the second harness, and im waiting for that to arrive but its on back order. Now the batter recall. So here are the details. Bike shut off 2 to 8 times every ride, and that is 30 miles of riding and 4000' of climbing every ride almost daily. After wiring harness I got 2 weeks and no shut offs, before it started acting up again. Then motor swap, last 2 rides. So then I quit washing the bike, for 2 weeks and no shut offs, then for 2 days it shut off bad maybe 10 times. A thermal shut off took place meaning it took 10 minutes to cool down before it would power on. This has only happened 9 times in 6 months. Now last 2 weeks I have no shut offs. So while Im not 100% on this, the lack of water has given me more trouble free riding, than anything else. Side notes, both motor and battery have thermal protection. and I do not know which one gets activated. The only thing not getting replaced is the battery so far. So if the bike makes it another few weeks without shutting down, washing it, was the problem. If someone lives in a wet environment, id pass on this bike. Pressure wash? NEVER. I have been riding this close to a professional level, 3000 + miles since May and 300,000' of climbing. been through 3 cassettes and 4 chains, one rear rotors, 4 sets of brake pads.
 

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