GEN 5 frame display

[ckkone]

So many different sized blank off plates, who got it right….

 

[Bike Bot]

Does anyone know if the Forestal top tube display on the new Bosch SX powered bike is actually the new Bosch display, I assume it is not, it is probably Forestal's own development? Either way, looks nice - see below IG video: FORESTAL BIKES on Instagram: "Down-Country, electrified. Equippend with the Bosch SX Drive unit, 400WH PowerTube, Compatible with the PowerMore 250 range extender for an extra 250Wh. The e-Cygnus brings fun on repeat. #downcountry #cygnus #forestal #emtb #ride #andorra #rideforestal"

 

[killerade]

Does anyone know if the Forestal top tube display on the new Bosch SX powered bike is actually the new Bosch display, I assume it is not, it is probably Forestal's own development? Either way, looks nice - see below IG video: FORESTAL BIKES on Instagram: "Down-Country, electrified. Equippend with the Bosch SX Drive unit, 400WH PowerTube, Compatible with the PowerMore 250 range extender for an extra 250Wh. The e-Cygnus brings fun on repeat. #downcountry #cygnus #forestal #emtb #ride #andorra #rideforestal"

If I had to guess, I'd say yes

 

[Suns_PSD]

The Forestal one is notoriously glitchy. One of that bike's worst attributes.

 

[ckkone]

If you look at the blank off plate pics some of the frames have different size openings. Just wonder if some manufacturers got it wrong, the Santa Cruz and Crestline are the same size but the Trek is noticeably smaller.

 

[ckkone]

It's strange Bosch chose Forestal from all brands to "soft" launch the display.
However, Bosch doesn't allow other parties to offer custom hardware for their systems so it might actually be the new display.

I think Forestal makes their own display that basically mirrors the phone app, their display also looks longer than most of the blank off plates pictured above. I don't believe the Forestal screen is the new OEM Bosch screen.

 

[cykelk]

If you look at the blank off plate pics some of the frames have different size openings. Just wonder if some manufacturers got it wrong, the Santa Cruz and Crestline are the same size but the Trek is noticeably smaller.

Is Trek the first shot? It looks to me like the plate sits in a recessed bevel that the other frames don't have. Could be something to that.

 

[ckkone]

Is Trek the first shot? It looks to me like the plate sits in a recessed bevel that the other frames don't have. Could be something to that.

Yeah, Trek is fist shot. Just found it interesting is all that there are so many variations of blank off plate for a screen that will probably be the same for every bike.

 

[cykelk]

Yeah, Trek is fist shot. Just found it interesting is all that there are so many variations of blank off plate for a screen that will probably be the same for every bike.

Yeah. It suggests the blanking plate is a bike manufacturer part rather than Bosch-supplied with the control panel, which is not what I would have guessed.

 

[gbcoke]

There should be only one option from Bosch that all the new frames with plastic base would fit.

 

[slavio]

Bosch is very well known for running a closed system, ie only Bosch parts will work with it. I'd be surprised to see they allowed a 3rd party display in their system.

 

[gio_se]

I believe that the one mounted on the Forestal is indeed the one that will be released by Bosch, as Slavio rightly points out Bosch maintains its “closed” system.

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EDIT: No, I'm wrong, the Cygnus page specifies “unique and proprietary.”:

Forestal | E-Cygnus

forestal.com

Be that as it may, the existence of the official Bosch adapter indicates that surely something is being planned.

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An official Bosch adapter already exists:

Bosch System Controller frame adapter

With the Bosch System Controller frame adapter , you can mount the Bosch System Controller control unit on the top tube of your eBike. The adapter…

www.ebike24.com

These are related to my bike, a Cube One44:

 

[Shark58]

An official Bosch adapter already exists:

This has the same part no as the adapter listed on the Santa Cruz website for the Vala.

 

[Mikerb]

None of the above appear to have any effective seal between the blanking plate and frame and that is poor

 

[Boogz83]

When is the new Bosch display a actually coming out?

 

[KKe]

Have heard some rumours about April.

 

[Shark58]

In recent years Bosch announced new components and function upgrades in April. Availability then started in June/July. Whether the new display will be available for after sales upgrades at that time is unclear. Sometimes end customers had to wait a few weeks until the initial demand for new bikes had been covered.

 

[deertrackdoctor]

Bosch touch screen ? Or Just frame mounted Kiox ?

 

[gio_se]

Bosch touch screen ? Or Just frame mounted Kiox ? View attachment 155297 View attachment 155298

Just an integrated KIOX 300.

 

[deertrackdoctor]

Just an integrated KIOX 300.

That's Disappointing

 

[Boogz83]

That's Disappointing

I would like to think Bosch will come up with something a bit more modern than that

 

[ckkone]

Good find, was hoping for better but at least the Koix 300 is a cheap upgrade.

 

[gbcoke]

The new screen is touch activated,will be quite nice...

 

[Boogz83]

Seems odd as to why they bothered launching the purion 400

 

[gio_se]

I'm hoping for something that integrates navigation/gps functions and route saving/synchronization WITHOUT having to rely on the smartphone. Exactly as I did with the old Nyon.... in 2018

 

[gio_se]

I was curious, so I bought the official Bosch adapter to see if it would fit my One44, which comes standard with the Cube adapter. Result: NO. Below are the images: the shape is the same, but the part where the screw goes in is thicker. We'll see what happens when this long-awaited new display comes out .

 

[ckkone]

I was curious, so I bought the official Bosch adapter to see if it would fit my One44, which comes standard with the Cube adapter. Result: NO. Below are the images: the shape is the same, but the part where the screw goes in is thicker. We'll see what happens when this long-awaited new display comes out .

Good to know, my SC Vala plate has the Bosch logo on it so we will see. My guess is the screen will be universal but some bike manufactures will have their own mount/trim ring. Similar to how some manufactures integrated the KIOX 300:

Ghost E-Riot

 

[Boogz83]

I was curious, so I bought the official Bosch adapter to see if it would fit my One44, which comes standard with the Cube adapter. Result: NO. Below are the images: the shape is the same, but the part where the screw goes in is thicker. We'll see what happens when this long-awaited new display comes out .

View attachment 155332 Are you thinking the new display will not fit 2025 cube bikes?

 

[gio_se]

I don't know, but I don't think Cube -which I imagine is one of Bosch's biggest partners given the sales volumes- would make a hole in the frame 'at random,' meaning without a valid reason or exact specifications from Bosch. We'll find out as soon as the new display/controller is released

 

[gio_se]

None of the above appear to have any effective seal between the blanking plate and frame and that is poor

At least the one mounted on the Cube, I can confirm, has a rubber gasket installed around the entire perimeter.