First ebike, first full sus, first 29er, first week with 50 miles under my belt

turbolego

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Aug 5, 2022
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Chico
I've ridden bikes all my life but they've mostly been bikes so cheap that there'd be no point trying to categorize them as mtbs vs hybrids. Then I got a basic Cube hardtail and it gave me a lot of confidence on the local trails which are mostly rock and little flow, and at some point in the past couple years of riding up and down the local rockgarden, I started suspecting that maybe every single other biker who was on a full sus was on to something. I had previously dismissed a full suspension bike cause they seemed far too expensive. It took a random ebike review on reddit to change my mind, where the person suggested that riding one had actually made them more fit because they were out far more often and riding farther.

After days of researching Freys and Prodigys and Bafang conversions I realized that if I'm going to spend medium-bucks for medium-satisfaction, I might as go all out. The first time I went to the LBS and tested out an Orbea Rise my body and mind positively rebelled at this awful cushiony boggy experience. I had to lock out the suspension to concentrate on the e-bike aspect, and turn off the bike to concentrate on the suspension. Dropper posts are new to me. The 29" wheel felt like it started where my stem ended and was liable to abrade my face. I'm still a little nauseated that I've acceded to digital/electronic technology in a domain as pure as the bicycle. I've already got a motorcycle to get my kicks. And just like I get range anxiety on my Honda parallel twin, I hate the idea of having battery range anxiety on a bicycle. At least the damn thing doesn't have a screen.

And yet! I've been riding my new Turbo Levo for four days and it's a revelation. I though my hardtail climbed well! I thought the weight would be a problem. I thought I'd give in to All Turbo All The Time. And yet on my second day out I ended up at the very end of the park, a place I've never made it out to. And I came down faster than I ever thought I would, taking drops I never would have dared... in time to get back home and drive out to pick up pizza. The ride TO the park is much quicker at 20 mph. I'm probably going to derestrict with a planet3, anyway. And yeah it's not a 29er but a mullet, which seemed to make a big difference when I compared it to the Orbea.

I got a good deal on it, too. Online retailer sold it for $5500 and didn't charge me tax, while the current price is $5800 and tax would have been another $400+. Was it worth the $700 to not have the goodwill of my local Specialized dealer? Specially when these motors are prone to fail? Well, they didn't have a base S2 in stock, so that's my excuse.


SOME QUESTIONS:
1. Why in tarnation is the hub so LOUD? Can it be quietened? Do I have to replace it to get something quieter?
2. What do I lose, in terms of geometry/bike dynamics, when I replace the currently flat bars with significant risers (think 50-60 mm)?
3. Are there tires I can use that will still afford me decent trail traction while not losing so much energy as sound and heat on the road?
4. Does the battery have significant drain when the bike is on but not being moved?
5. On the base Levo Alloy, the fork has a lockout but the rear shock just has a rebound adjuster - but when I turn it all the way to 'turtle' it seems to take all the bounce out, so kind of like a lockout - is it bad for the shock to ride the bike like this on the road?
 

Tim1023

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Aug 25, 2020
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Hamburg, Germany
Congratulations! Glad you're enjoying it.
I'll answer what I feel able to answer and leave the more qualified on the forum to tackle the rest.
1. Just the design. Down to the sprag clutch I would think. No there's nothing you can do about it. I just got used to it on mine.
3. There's been lots of threads about tyres on this forum. Have a peruse through. Allow yourself some time! You'll also find links to a website that does extensive drag testing of tyres. Can't think of the name right now. Essentially though, it's either grippy or easy rolling. A middling solution you could go for is to add pressure for riding on the road and take it out again for the trails.
4. Doubt it. The Levo turns itself off after a while anyway, I think.
5. Considering what the bike is designed to handle, the road is just easy peasy for it. Sadly, the majority of the kilometres on my bike are from commuting. No problems whatsoever.
 

mcboab

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Aug 2, 2022
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What I've found with tyres is you form your own personal preferences for the terrain /use you put them to often via experimentation, or local knowledge-though so much of that could be internet rumour driven.
So a lot of that depends on local conditions and where you want the tyre to perform. My preferences for local trails is front end grip when pushing on down gnarly trails with some /reasonable semblance of rear braking/ turn grip so its not too tail happy when I throw the anchors out, the rest of it such as fire trail climbs/tarmac roads there/back I just put up with and its a lot easier to put up with on an e-bike (as it only the battery duration /speed that suffers in the most part from tyre drag).
But thats just my views. If I tried to go for a more allround capable tyre there's a good chance I'd faceplant due to a front /rear wheel washout when I least expected it, so my MTB tyre motto is max grip ! YMMV.
 

BeBiker

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Aug 26, 2020
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Belgium
They have to develop add-on tyre covers.
A hard fast rolling road/gravel profile, to ride to the tracks, and can then be put in the back pack.
 

Tim1023

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Aug 25, 2020
662
585
Hamburg, Germany
They have to develop add-on tyre covers.
Something like this?
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turbolego

Member
Aug 5, 2022
42
15
Chico
Congratulations! Glad you're enjoying it.
I'll answer what I feel able to answer and leave the more qualified on the forum to tackle the rest.
1. Just the design. Down to the sprag clutch I would think. No there's nothing you can do about it. I just got used to it on mine.
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Thank you! I read somewhere that it might be worthwhile packing the hub with grease to quiet it down some.

Also as far as bar risers, I found a good video regarding the changing geometry of bar risers vs moving the spacers down below the stem.


I'll start with the latter and also some silicone grips, then maybe get some risers if I'm still getting lots of vibey pain in my hands.



As far as tires, sounds like drag is essentially commensurate to grip, and the tires on the bike have a decent rating, so I won't futz with em at all for now.
 

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