Downduro Rig has been born (Page 4) ⚡️

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
Update

I haven’t posted much recently because I’ve been too busy shredding!

I have done some minor things though.

AirTag - installed so it provides a little safety net.

Sound deadening - there was a small amount of chatter from the cables in the downtube. So I wrapped them with Velcro straps and filled the space with foam. It’s silent now!

Ergon GE1 Factory grips - upgraded from standard GE1s. Super sticky grip and stealth to go with the bars.

Other than that the Kenevo has taken an absolute pounding most days and is running sweet!

4FE771A0-8AD5-48AB-B14F-C3EF67CBBD04.jpeg
2845405A-3568-4F74-83C0-2E88FD18DEDC.jpeg
058C6C82-A1A1-463C-9BF6-FCAD5143F38B.jpeg
7D3076A4-DA24-4033-B728-86DED5895B14.jpeg
3B24E088-A211-47D1-A45A-2F5DE5883F42.jpeg
 

Ribinrobin

Well-known member
Subscriber
Apr 16, 2021
331
323
Berkshire, UK
Update

I haven’t posted much recently because I’ve been too busy shredding!

I have done some minor things though.

AirTag - installed so it provides a little safety net.

Sound deadening - there was a small amount of chatter from the cables in the downtube. So I wrapped them with Velcro straps and filled the space with foam. It’s silent now!

Ergon GE1 Factory grips - upgraded from standard GE1s. Super sticky grip and stealth to go with the bars.

Other than that the Kenevo has taken an absolute pounding most days and is running sweet!

View attachment 125288 View attachment 125289 View attachment 125290 View attachment 125291 View attachment 125292

House and bike look nice!
 

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
Update

Well the Kenevo is still running sweet and I’m really enjoying it. Enjoying it so much I’m entering an Enduro event in November (at night time).

There has been an issue though. The controller on the handlebar has become faulty. I cannot select modes anymore (+ / -). The top and bottom buttons still work though. I’ve reset / disconnected and reconnected with no joy. Let’s hope JeJames come true as they are my dealer. I will update.

Lastly. I’m leaving single crown!
I’m absolutely loving the Ohlins TTXM2.2 coil shock and want the stiffness of the triple clamp dual crown but travel of the single crown. So have pulled the trigger on an Ohlins DH38 fork with a 50mm offset clamp setup.

I will need to modify the Hope 5 Pro hub for the 20mm axle. Parts all ordered.

Oh and the Fox 38 Factory forks will be up for sale too with 170mm and 180mm air shafts included.





IMG_7527.jpeg
C3883DD0-DADB-4778-892F-6B589A3D0689.jpeg
D539FF8D-5431-4866-A070-756BE3AA2E06.jpeg

A86892A0-CA23-40E8-8FD8-0346EDE75714.jpeg
 
Last edited:

cozzy

E*POWAH Elite
Subscriber
Aug 11, 2019
931
1,038
Hampshire UK
Nice. A dual crown is doing it properly 😁.
What travel? I recall the dh38 had quite a tall a2c when I was looking at them a while back.
Unrelated and seeing as your bike is quite new with the same shock, perhaps you could give your backend a wiggle as per my thread and advise?

Oh and I would suggest getting an additional set of fork rubber bumpers to help spread the load in a crash. The frame can be dinged quite easily.

 

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
Nice. A dual crown is doing it properly 😁.
What travel? I recall the dh38 had quite a tall a2c when I was looking at them a while back.
Unrelated and seeing as your bike is quite new with the same shock, perhaps you could give your backend a wiggle as per my thread and advise?

Oh and I would suggest getting an additional set of fork rubber bumpers to help spread the load in a crash. The frame can be dinged quite easily.

I’ve gone for 180mm initially, I can upgrade it to 200mm for around £35. I will see how it goes.

Thanks for the tips on the bumpers. What brand ODI?

Just replied to your thread.
 

cozzy

E*POWAH Elite
Subscriber
Aug 11, 2019
931
1,038
Hampshire UK
Yes I think that's a sensible travel number. A2c is 608-620 for a 29" @200mm now I've checked which is massive. For reference my 40 @200 is 595mm I think.
I have a fox and the genuine bumpers were only a few quid. I wanted to keep them the same size.
Cheers for the reply. Looks like I need to investigate further.
 
Last edited:

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
Yes I think that's a sensible travel number. A2c is 608-620 for a 29" @200mm now I've checked which is massive. For reference my 40 @200 is 595mm I think.
I have a fox and the genuine bumpers were only a few quid. I wanted to keep them the same size.
Cheers for the reply. Looks like I need to investigate further.
Thanks for the info …. Slack city! Especially if it’s a 29”
 

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
B6FA6034-EE3A-426C-BD15-F5714D2FDD5B.jpeg
3D200FB3-01E9-4FC8-BBFF-8FEEE684CD2B.jpeg
D39504E3-EC29-472D-BE3B-C8264969E04B.jpeg
516BB515-4503-4052-A3B5-57EA46945B9A.jpeg
34182CFF-D734-4EA6-9E9C-5DA18FD16AAA.jpeg
B6E66B8F-333C-440C-97ED-064D8D8202E6.jpeg
DC74B114-14BC-4E0C-94CB-D5D3F996DC21.jpeg
Update Öhlins DH38M.1 arrived


Little update. The new Öhlins gold has arrived. Unboxing was nice as ever revealing the quality you’d expect. I’m surprised at how light the setup is in hand.

Jobs ticked off tonight.

1. Steerer cut to 150mm
2. Decals removed (pains me to do this on a new fork!)
3. Prepped for Invisiframe

The eagle eyed will spy that I have 2 sets of rubber bumpers to protect the frame from damage.
 

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
6C4E3DE1-DE37-41EC-ADA7-0A81E00718C4.jpeg
65A07994-5A9C-43F3-B45F-C68F44D7608A.jpeg
29308CE8-AC81-49D3-9FCA-C1BFE3F42721.jpeg
FD175295-C960-45C1-8547-6FA54A9EADA4.jpeg
1064D267-607E-4174-A448-4C41683D8D36.jpeg
A5261466-89B0-4E15-AD37-92366A53FA22.jpeg
709BBE43-4A42-4F8D-9608-2C3F93345268.jpeg
189A91B1-6014-4D63-A0CE-3AADBE52E573.jpeg
38244A50-D4E8-4458-BC14-76642CC6D461.jpeg
83B7D2C5-AB71-428D-866F-DF83DA53BE95.jpeg
2E02417A-5F5F-4660-B506-96DC810A1298.jpeg
F90B2486-D77D-473B-A1B0-2C7AE38B7F5A.jpeg
Update Finished Fork Install


All parts finally arrived to finish the DH38M.1 install.

Extremely pleased! It’s like a mini moto X bike.

Parts I needed to install:-

-DH38M.1 Forks
-50mm Offset Crown
-Hope HUB494 Pro 5 hub conversion to 20mm axle
-Deity stealth direct mount stem
-Crown race
-Invisiframe protection
-Slik Graphics Decals
-Extra Öhlins fork bumpers (so 2 each side)
-RRP ProGuard bolt on mud guard

Head angle (using my phone) is around 62.5 degrees. Axle to top tube (headset) is the same height as before. Albeit, the bars are 10mm higher. So might see how I go once it’s been shaken down.
 

cozzy

E*POWAH Elite
Subscriber
Aug 11, 2019
931
1,038
Hampshire UK
Make sure the brake hose doesn't rub off the anodising on the right stanchion. It looks like it's touching.
I routed my rear brake through the left port in the frame as no need for over long cables when the dual crown stops the bars spinning too far.
 

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
Make sure the brake hose doesn't rub off the anodising on the right stanchion. It looks like it's touching.
I routed my rear brake through the left port in the frame as no need for over long cables when the dual crown stops the bars spinning too far.
Great shout - I need to replace the controller (Spesh have a new one being sent) so will do that at the same time 👍🏼
 

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
Make sure the brake hose doesn't rub off the anodising on the right stanchion. It looks like it's touching.
I routed my rear brake through the left port in the frame as no need for over long cables when the dual crown stops the bars spinning too far.
I’ve added some invisiframe to protect it short term. As I am out today on it. Maiden voyage!
B56C499D-E961-4767-B08A-1AEEB91D2744.jpeg
 

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
Shake Down - Downduro build

I took the rig out to the Welsh trails today to test out the new setup.

I decided on Öhlins recommended settings from their calculator.

Ramp up - 215 PSI
Main chamber - 110 PSI

I then landed on
HSC - 1
LSC - 4
Rebound 7 (then adjusted to 8 on trail)

The setup out of the box was pretty much on point. I only bottomed out once and that was a hard square landing so acceptable really.

I felt a little nose heavy to start with on take offs, but I added some rebound and it was perfect!

What a difference it made to single crown. The steering is so direct with no flex, so stiff in corners and the rough stuff.

There was no compromise either. Slightly heavier but minimal considering overall weight, but benefits from an ultra stiff and higher quality shock (in my opinion).

There were no issues with switchbacks which surprised me (didn’t hit the bumpers once).

Also (as you can imagine) the setup is so plush, it ploughs through rock gardens like they are not there.

I love that Öhlins have recognised the benefits of dual crown for all types of riding. Hell, they do air cartridges for the DH38M.1 from 120mm all the way up to 200mm! 180mm is the sweet spot though….. Downduro!

Wish I did this from the start!

E89D2D47-3975-46AA-BBD0-2D69CC8CA7E7.jpeg
70497806-2C63-4466-946E-4BB1D60C9280.jpeg
A0F83FD1-1BF0-4644-82E2-9F4506BF6A9C.jpeg
9DD2CF10-4FF7-44BE-8AF0-DFC5D1F38F9D.jpeg
28F2D574-8346-4903-BEFE-A2D517BC33E3.jpeg
 

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
Update.

Well I’ve still been shredding the Kenevo even though it’s been so wet here in Wales.

I’ve had a few KOMs and trophies on Strava so it proves the setup has been working well for me.

I’ve made some small mods on the downtube to eradicate the rattles - it’s now silent!

Oh and I’ve decided to move away from
Cuschore Assegai / DHRII setup to a Kryptotal DH casing with no insert.

Race next weekend, so will see how they fair.

290C77CD-1C32-46E5-9B3C-A1B513255A2E.jpeg 09BE4AC6-708C-4CC7-AB45-12AB40383EA0.jpeg
 

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
What did you do to remove the rattle? I still have some rattle somewhere and want to remove it!

Bike looks epic btw.
Thanks.

Tried a lot of things with varied success.

The only thing that worked for me was bubble wrap!

Basically stuff it down the top tube and the pressure from the little air sacks keeps the cables pushed against the frame so no rattle. Easy to pull out too.

I also put my AirTag into a bubble wrap ball and pushed against the headset.

Silent now … apart from tyres which is good 👍🏼
 

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
Update

So I moved from Maxxis Assegai / DHR II DD with Cushcore and have been running Kryptotal in DH spec F & R with no Cushcore for over a week.

The setup is c. 500g lighter.

Im not sure if it’s a placebo effect but it feels like it spins easier/quicker but the most noticeable feeling was the turn in. Much more responsive and felt like it can lean in easier than before. Really enjoying it and no punctures / rim dings on the rocks.

I’m entering an Enduro race tomorrow….

7CD4EE43-E33B-4395-BF6F-F783A9F03EAB.jpeg
 
Last edited:

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
Update

Enduro race completed. It was a night race so it was so different compared to pushing it in the daylight. So easy to lose your line as you seem to focus on the near sight vs way ahead of you.

The Kenevo performed superb with no issues to report! Blasted it in Turbo and it lapped it up.

We are moving into winter now and I have been weighing up the options on getting another bike alongside the full fat Kenevo and my Non ebike Enduro.

Something that is lighter that I can whip down the trails when I don’t need the heft of the dual crown.

I weighed up all the pros and cons and I decided not to bother… the Kenevo can take many forms. A full on sledge (like current spec) or a rapid enduro lighter bike (like Rob originally had).

So I have decided to have both on one bike.

I have a set of Öhlins RXF 36.M2 arriving. Almost a kilo lighter than the DH forks, half a kilo lighter than the 38 spec forks but same internals as the DH38!

I spec’d it in a 180mm travel to keep the balance I have at the moment too.

I can swap out a fork in a few mins so this is practical depending on the ride I will be doing.

Should be arriving in a few days (along with invisiframe etc etc).

Will be interesting to see the difference in ‘feel’.

I will probably keep the Öhlins coil fitted as I love it so much, but may use an air shock to further shed some weight.

Any way until then, some pics of the Kenevo in attack mode.



032AD3D2-CAE4-4560-9D99-337A5ED2C66F.jpeg
A25264F4-DDF6-4E9B-88F6-6C5953EC6F92.jpeg
71E93472-0A13-4E9F-8CFE-A54979C03424.jpeg
 

CjP

PRIME TIME
Subscriber
Jan 1, 2019
1,671
2,394
Everywhere
I personally found the 36 @180/29 to be a bit noodly. 170 really is the limit of these thinner tubed forks.
Brother runs his 29 EXT at 170 and it runs marginally better than my old set up.
Also while your shedding weight an airshock will give you a nice weight saving and also the ability to tune in a little more playfulnesses into the bike.

For all out DH/proper enduro though your current set up is awesome. It’s what I use to run and loved it.
 

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
I personally found the 36 @180/29 to be a bit noodly. 170 really is the limit of these thinner tubed forks.
Brother runs his 29 EXT at 170 and it runs marginally better than my old set up.
Also while your shedding weight an airshock will give you a nice weight saving and also the ability to tune in a little more playfulnesses into the bike.

For all out DH/proper enduro though your current set up is awesome. It’s what I use to run and loved it.
Thanks for the insight. I have both air shafts arriving with the fork (170/180) and it’s pretty easy to swap out due to not having to remove the lowers so I will experiment.

Yes - I have a few air shocks unused so will experiment with these too. If I like it then may get the Öhlins air shock too. That coil is superb though!

Current setup is insane though …. Full powered DH/Enduro rig that climbs tech great but descends like a pro bike!
 
  • Like
Reactions: CjP

Christurbo

E*POWAH Master
Jul 11, 2023
384
722
North Wales
Update

First ride out on the Kenevo since the Enduro race. Still ran perfectly. However it was sub 5 degrees so took a while to warm up to it! Taste of things to come.

Looking forward to trying a lighter weight setup on it adding some pop on the jump lines.

Ps. Not sure if I mentioned on an earlier post but the handlebar remote failed recently. Spesh replaced it and all is good again with the world. They don’t mess about and seem to love their customers.

705616A6-E4A9-4BF7-914C-59E1198211E3.jpeg
4E363192-D654-4E94-924A-CD482D61DC2D.jpeg
C58BFA92-9C7B-4505-BC11-EE0230A0840A.jpeg
3E796C04-9CDD-4BE4-A96A-3DB0CEAE320D.jpeg
IMG_7950.jpeg
 

EMTB Forums

Since 2018

The World's largest electric mountain bike community.

552K
Messages
27,926
Members
Join Our Community

Latest articles


Top