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Looks good. Hopefully I see mine before the end of the year.in case you've been living under a rock today..2021 meta power tour de france:
Looks good. Hopefully I see mine before the end of the year.in case you've been living under a rock today..2021 meta power tour de france:
The Bosch is also noticeably more powerful than the Shimano EP8. Although the integration / display no where near as good.
time for an EP8 vs Bosch dyno test like any decent motorcycle review would do! complete with a control electric motor to simulate rider input of course..When you say noticeably, how much more are we talking? Is it so much more powerful that I should be looking for a Bosch bike instead of a shimano?
Does shimano have any plans in the works you know of to match the Bosch power with a software upgrade or something by the time they actually start sending out the EP8 bikes?
in case you've been living under a rock today..2021 meta power tour de france:
Looks like the pretax price of $A10, 453 is $A1400 more than we pay in the US for the Team. Our price for the Signature is $A400 less than the Team down under. Not sure if that is exchange rate related to Euros or what. Then you have to add $1000 tax, wow.Australian Commencal site now showing October for delivery now, I hope that is accurate.
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on USA site availability is model & size specific & signature disappeared, weird. i'm hoping xmas.Australian Commencal site now showing October for delivery now, I hope that is accurate.
Yeah Aussie's always get stung with high pricing on the exchange rate and taxes. It's a bloody jip!Looks like the pretax price of $A10, 453 is $A1400 more than we pay in the US for the Team. Our price for the Signature is $A400 less than the Team down under. Not sure if that is exchange rate related to Euros or what. Then you have to add $1000 tax, wow.
I have a deposit on the Signature as well, it was on the Aussie site last night but now it has been removed again.on USA site availability is model & size specific & signature disappeared, weird. i'm hoping xmas.
fyi wasn't charged tax in california USA on 100% 'deposit' they already charged to my card, just shipping.
With the known shimano motor issues I can’t imagine you’ll get it much sooner than anyone else.Yeah Aussie's always get stung with high pricing on the exchange rate and taxes. It's a bloody jip!
I have a deposit on the Signature as well, it was on the Aussie site last night but now it has been removed again.
I am hoping that it isn't a fox/shimano component availability issue, I can wait till December but would love it if it happens beforehand.
Yes, sounds strange... In Europe they still keep December as expected delivery date.With the known shimano motor issues I can’t imagine you’ll get it much sooner than anyone else.
I can't see wanting 140mm travel on a ebike. It's not like climbing is hard with a 170 ebike. Best of both worlds plus downs and easy ups. I have a jeffsy 29 (140) and it sucks being under gunned through really gnarly tech. Only reason to go 140 and lower is to make the climbing livable.I was really hoping they would bring out an EMTB version of this, will be disappointed if they dont
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I disagree, its got nothing to do with climbing, I dont need more than 150mm travel unless doing proper DH stuff, and value a pumped up trail bike over a big old enduro barge for my local riding (Surrey Hills) where most of the big rigs are just too big to be fun. I often use my hardtail EMTB over my Enduro for some rides as it a lot snappier and more manoeuvrable, even though hardtail EMTB's are pretty brutal to ride on tech stuff.I can't see wanting 140mm travel on a ebike. It's not like climbing is hard with a 170 ebike. Best of both worlds plus downs and easy ups. I have a jeffsy 29 (140) and it sucks being under gunned through really gnarly tech. Only reason to go 140 and lower is to make the climbing livable.
I can't see wanting 140mm travel on a ebike. It's not like climbing is hard with a 170 ebike. Best of both worlds plus downs and easy ups. I have a jeffsy 29 (140) and it sucks being under gunned through really gnarly tech. Only reason to go 140 and lower is to make the climbing livable.
Huh? Does your riding only consist of full power uphill blasts?I almost ordered new commencal but after seeing how the EP8 is pretty underpowered compared with Bosch and Brose, I am really glad I did not.
Think you're kind of missing the point. How often are you drag racing uphill? I read somewhere that over 90% of people only use Eco and Trail so how relevant is the max power issue? How much more important is reliability, integration, noise, feeling?I almost ordered new commencal but after seeing how the EP8 is pretty underpowered compared with Bosch and Brose, I am really glad I did not.
Think you're kind of missing the point. How often are you drag racing uphill? I read somewhere that over 90% of people only use Eco and Trail so how relevant is the max power issue? How much more important is reliability, integration, noise, feeling?
I'm dying to get my hands on my Merida e-One Sixty 9000 when it arrives. My only annoyance if anything is the rattle on coasting and I ride listening to music so that's a void issue to me.
I agree with you 100%.Not sure I agree. If most of what you ride is tight and twisty, a 170mm bike, slacked out and with a much longer wheelbase, is not going to get through those trails as fast as a 140mm bike.
Curious as to why they no longer offer the "electric lagoon" green and just white/black for the Signature? Did they run out of paint? Complaints? Looks much better imo. So now I'll have the rare discontinued "collectors edition" lagoon paint version and can sell it for millions...Had some calls with commencal in the last 2 weeks. Thought I’d share the info I got from them:
They really think December is the earliest that they will receive the Shimano motors, this means that delivery will most probably be for January earliest
The Signature 29 will not be coming back in the white/blue color but in the white/black (same as the team edition) delivery of those is planned in February 2021, there will be no other colors for the Signature edition
There will be a Öhlins model, also delivery February 2021
So I wonder if people who already ordered the Signature with the 'electric lagoon' colour will still get it now. I don't mind either way.Curious as to why they no longer offer the "electric lagoon" green and just white/black for the Signature? Did they run out of paint? Complaints? Looks much better imo. So now I'll have the rare discontinued "collectors edition" lagoon paint version and can sell it for millions...
Same sameCovid strikes again. Focus demo is now cancelled due to the new rule of 6 restrictions. Looks like I’m back to a coin toss to choose between the meta power & the sam2
I agree. I dont think I even used turbo mode on the e8000 more than a handful of times. Always trail or eco. So max power not at all important for me. As for the noise, which is my biggest bitch about the EP8 (other than its not available), I'd rather have a quiet bike going uphill when its obvious you are riding an ebike, rather than some knocks going downhill when all kinds of things can rattle anyway. The EP8 is virtually silent uphill, quietest of them all. And excellent integration with the small screen and small motor. The gargantuan motor complex on the Levo is a total turnoff. This all matters for me as ebikes are "outlawed" on local trails here currently. Stupid.The reality of EMTB's is that all the motors do the job, and its actually the power delivery that seperates them in terms of riding experience - I still love the e8000 motor, even though it isn't the most powerful, because for me its the most natural to ride and replicates and reacts to rider imputes in the most similar way to ring a normal bike, at least for me and my riding. I have never ever thought I wish I had more power, in fact I would probably be happy with a bit less power if it meant a more efficient system.
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