commencal 2021

[Gibalmc]

Covid strikes again. Focus demo is now cancelled due to the new rule of 6 restrictions. Looks like I’m back to a coin toss to choose between the meta power & the sam2

 

[spacemonkey]

Maybe something to know before placing an order...

there will be a Meta Power Ohlins edition in March...looking at the normal meta...this could be very tempting

 

[melmark]

Covid strikes again. Focus demo is now cancelled due to the new rule of 6 restrictions. Looks like I’m back to a coin toss to choose between the meta power & the sam2

Very curious to hear your impression of the SAM2 if you ever get to ride it. I think many of us are considering other options due to the Shimano mess...

 

[EVILTaylor]

Very curious to hear your impression of the SAM2 if you ever get to ride it. I think many of us are considering other options due to the Shimano mess...

I agree, mess it is. I was pretty set on this bike, but now I think I might go the Levo route... Seems to be the right battery size, etc.

 

[melmark]

The SAM2 6.9 looks pretty good. Very comparable price and kit to the Signature. Bosch CX a great motor.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

The SAM2 6.9 looks pretty good. Very comparable price and kit to the Signature. Bosch CX a great motor.

The Bosch is also noticeably more powerful than the Shimano EP8. Although the integration / display no where near as good.

 

[melmark]

The Bosch is also noticeably more powerful than the Shimano EP8. Although the integration / display no where near as good.

I know this is a Commencal thread, but Rob have you ridden the new SAM2? I have the Signature on order but as we know that's not written in stone.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

I know this is a Commencal thread, but Rob have you ridden the new SAM2? I have the Signature on order but as we know that's not written in stone.

Yes a a few times . I’ll have a video out soon.

 

[Matt_Rider]

The Bosch is also noticeably more powerful than the Shimano EP8. Although the integration / display no where near as good.

Rob, whats the total weight the Sam2 can carry? Can't find any info on the new bike...

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Rob, whats the total weight the Sam2 can carry? Can't find any info on the new bike...

Pretty sure it’s 130 total

 

[vham777]

@spacemonkey i also asked commencal about the öhlins spec... did they confirm it will show up in only march?

 

[spacemonkey]

That's what he said...i suppose it could be sooner

 

[Gibalmc]

Very curious to hear your impression of the SAM2 if you ever get to ride it. I think many of us are considering other options due to the Shimano mess...

So I’ve tried a few dealers even an online store based in Germany. It does appear that earliest delivery of a sam2 if ordering now is May next year. I’ve waited since this May for the release of the 2021 meta power & I really don’t think I can wait a full year with the money burning a hole in my pocket. If I am waiting till May next year it’ll probably be for the privateer e161 which is also due to be ready for shipping that month. Looks like it’ll be back to my original choice of the Meta power and hopefully delivery by end of 2020.

 

[JMD]

Delay & uncertainly of ep8 to much for me, pre-order cancelled & 2021 rail 9.8xt in my kitchen?.
I can unfollow this thread now, good luck.

 

[mastakilla]

why isnt the top spec fox model 29 showing on us website?

 

[Hugh-Jazz]

why isnt the top spec fox model 29 showing on us website?

I believe the pre-orders are sold out for that model in many countries.

 

[rb.]

why isnt the top spec fox model 29 showing on us website?

For some reason Commencal seems to remove a bike from their website once it completely sells out.

 

[Frirish]

Delay & uncertainly of ep8 to much for me, pre-order cancelled & 2021 rail 9.8xt in my kitchen?.
I can unfollow this thread now, good luck.

I wanted the SX or the Ekano, but can’t wait that long.
I bought a Kenevo Comp yesterday!

 

[nickfrog]

YT Decoy Elite shows early November as well, I would rather wait an extra month and get 2021 bike.

I wouldn't buy without knowing about YTs 2021 bikes. Even if that meant missing out on 3 months winter riding.

 

[melmark]

Delay & uncertainly of ep8 to much for me, pre-order cancelled & 2021 rail 9.8xt in my kitchen?.
I can unfollow this thread now, good luck.

I've thought about that too, but 120 day wait here for the Rail. And $1k more than Signature. And the SAM2 not until May? In fact I dont know if Focus even available here. Wtf, screwed either way. Sold my 2019 metapower Race way too soon looks like...

 

[JMD]

I've thought about that too, but 120 day wait here for the Rail. And $1k more than Signature. And the SAM2 not until May? In fact I dont know if Focus even available here. Wtf, screwed either way. Sold my 2019 metapower Race way too soon looks like...

?I managed to buy my 9.8xt £1000 cheaper than a signature

 

[melmark]

?I managed to buy my 9.8xt £1000 cheaper than a signature

Hmm must be UK pricing? Signature US $7100, Rail 9.8 $8k. For 2021 that is.

 

[JMD]

Hmm must be UK pricing? Signature US $7100, Rail 9.8 $8k. For 2021 that is.

Signature €7500 exchanged to £6950, 9.8xt £5940 with 10% discount

 

[magnil]

Signature €7500 exchanged to £6950, 9.8xt £6600 with 10% discount.

Shows how bad the EU pricing is. Wonder how Commencal think with that.

 

[pabloantu]

Hello mates, please support choosing the right size for a 2021 Meta Power 29"
I'm 188cm (6´2") tall and 91cm (3´) inseam, just between L and XL.

Extreme angles suggest me to go for XL as reach is not that big, just enough to compensate the steep seat angle.
I'm afraid to feel size L small, while also afraid XL to be sluggish and difficult to move on twisty alpine singletracks, due to the massive wheelbase and extra weight of the ebike.

As a reference, I ride a 2019 XL Orbea Rallon and feel is the right size for me, bike is nimble and playful.
Below geometries compared. Thanks for your support!

 

[brewoz40]

I wander if Commencal is planning to release any more models besides the Ohlins, was kind of hoping they would do a mullet setup for one of the bikes.

 

[Gibalmc]

So I’ve tried a few dealers even an online store based in Germany. It does appear that earliest delivery of a sam2 if ordering now is May next year. I’ve waited since this May for the release of the 2021 meta power & I really don’t think I can wait a full year with the money burning a hole in my pocket. If I am waiting till May next year it’ll probably be for the privateer e161 which is also due to be ready for shipping that month. Looks like it’ll be back to my original choice of the Meta power and hopefully delivery by end of 2020.

Update. I think I must have messaged or emailed every focus dealer in the UK with the same result each time. No we haven’t pre ordered any sam2 6.9 sorry it’ll be May / June.
So I was about to pull the trigger on the meta power 29. Went out riding today & met a local trail building legend who’s also in the market for an e enduro for our local tweed valley trails. He said something which made me re-evaluate which bike I’d go for.
“Basically all these new bikes will ride brilliantly, life’s too short just buy whichever one you can get Your hands on the quickest & get out & ride it” was the gist of it.
He’d also decided to get the sam2 but was a bit gutted when I told him about the wait however when I got home I’d had an email from a UK Dealer who HAS preordered stock of the Sam2 for delivery by December so I took my friends advice. Decision made & deposit paid.

 

[The Flying Dutchman]

Update. I think I must have messaged or emailed every focus dealer in the UK with the same result each time. No we haven’t pre ordered any sam2 6.9 sorry it’ll be May / June.
So I was about to pull the trigger on the meta power 29. Went out riding today & met a local trail building legend who’s also in the market for an e enduro for our local tweed valley trails. He said something which made me re-evaluate which bike I’d go for.
“Basically all these new bikes will ride brilliantly, life’s too short just buy whichever one you can get Your hands on the quickest & get out & ride it” was the gist of it.
He’d also decided to get the sam2 but was a bit gutted when I told him about the wait however when I got home I’d had an email from a UK Dealer who HAS preordered stock of the Sam2 for delivery by December so I took my friends advice. Decision made & deposit paid.

This local legend sounds like a wise gentleman - I'd listen to him.

 

[melmark]

Well apparently Focus are impossible to get in the US. But YT is about 10 minutes from my house. Will see what the new Decoy has to offer, hopefully a Bosch CX option. Otherwise waiting for the Shimano fiasco to resolve to get my damn Signature...

 

[shenchman]

in case you've been living under a rock today..2021 meta power tour de france: