Moe Ped
Well-known member
I put cushcores in mine that should help.
I think ?
I think ?
Carbon fiber wheels: Waste of money or totally worth it?
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No real evidence there I can see.Could be this one:
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MERIDA eONE-SIXTY 10K in Review
As the name suggests, the MERIDA eONE-SIXTY 10K comes with a hefty € 10,000 price tag. How does it compare to the even more expensive S-Works Levo?ebike-mtb.com
Considering the delicate DT Swiss HXC 1200 carbon wheels, this is a dangerous combination for heavy or aggressive riders.
Moe Ped
Well-known member
Very noisy though sounds like a jet aeroplane at full pelt, I believe you can change the lubrication to make them quieter.
Pyr0
E*POWAH Master
Yeah, well I hope they're not too fragile, I've ordered a set to replace my buckled roval traverse lol
Eddy Current
E*POWAH Master
Sure Rob
Notice they are 27.5, supposed to be more stiff
The CONWAY XYRON 927 Carbon on the trail
Although the CONWAY XYRON 927 Carbon is rather compact, the pedalling position is stretched even for tall riders. This is not due to a long front triangle, but because of the low front end in combination with the super-wide 820 mm handlebar pulling the rider forward. While this stretched position isn’t the most comfortable on long rides over flat terrain, it pays off on steep climbs. With so much weight on the front wheel, it never wants to lift and you can stay on track no matter how winding and tight the climb gets. All the while, the 2.6″ wide Schwalbe Hans Dampf tires and the rear suspension generate enough traction to transfer the Bosch’s 75 Nm to the ground. Incidentally, we don’t recommend running the tire pressures too low to avoid damaging the delicate carbon rims of the DT-Swiss HXC 1200 wheelset.
CONWAY XYRON 927 Carbon in Review
Carbon as far as the eye can see. How does the CONWAY XYRON 927 Carbon with its sexy cockpit and frame fare against the competition?
ebike-mtb.com
High Rock Ruti
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High Rock Ruti
I deleted carbon rims from the Rail 9.8 saved $600 in less than month had a dent in the side of the rim 1/4 inch deep. The carbon rims come with a two year warranty, that's right I need another warranty claim. Pinch flat a tire put a hole through the casing and bend the rim, patch the tire and use a pair of pliers to straighten out the rim, Carbon.....rim?
I deleted carbon rims from the Rail 9.8 saved $600 in less than month had a dent in the side of the rim 1/4 inch deep. The carbon rims come with a two year warranty, that's right I need another warranty claim. Pinch flat a tire put a hole through the casing and bend the rim, patch the tire and use a pair of pliers to straighten out the rim, Carbon.....rim?
The Flying Dutchman
E*POWAH Master
the dentists choice??
Moe Ped
Well-known member
Nope not a dentist actually own a software development company.
I have also put all Axs on it too, still not a dentist.
do you ride a Giant by any chance?
I have also put all Axs on it too, still not a dentist.
do you ride a Giant by any chance?
The Flying Dutchman
E*POWAH Master
AXS too?! oh my lawrd! ? Your company must develop a lot of software!
Yup got a Giant, aka "the Plebmobile"
2wls4ever
New Member
The lighter weight will help in cornering transitions. The current offerings tend to have a stiffer ride/feel. If you like a low pressure DH tire ride, the hot setup is carbon front, aluminum rear. Stick with a 30mm I.D. rim either way.
Moe Ped
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the dentists choice??
Is it ok to change my answer ? i am a dentist and would like to do an oral checkup for you.
Is it ok to change my answer ? i am a dentist and would like to do an oral checkup for you.
As someone who has over the years used most brands of carbon wheels, and broken every single one of them, I would say no, they arn't worth it, in my opinion.
I have a few sets of good DT Swiss based wheels (240 Hubs, 481/511 rims, XM1501's etc) all of which have substantially outlasted every carbon wheel i've tried.
Not to mention they ride better. I race a reasonable amount & am quite particular to wheel & tyre setup. Carbon is very direct, which is probably a good thing on the road & even XC, but for the usual type of riding & racing I do (gravity based) they have a harshness which translates to a poorer ride quality. On choppy terrain the lack of flex causes the wheel to skip, rather than flex & stay grounded, which translates to a lack of grip. Also really notice it on off camber sections when you are fighting to hold a line, the stiffness can cause the bike to 'ping' rather than flex & hold.
Also if i've travelled half way across Europe to race, and crack a carbon rim mid practice or on a stage, the chances are i'm not finishing out the day.
Decent aluminium wheelset is lighter than most carbon anyway. Save your money.
I have a few sets of good DT Swiss based wheels (240 Hubs, 481/511 rims, XM1501's etc) all of which have substantially outlasted every carbon wheel i've tried.
Not to mention they ride better. I race a reasonable amount & am quite particular to wheel & tyre setup. Carbon is very direct, which is probably a good thing on the road & even XC, but for the usual type of riding & racing I do (gravity based) they have a harshness which translates to a poorer ride quality. On choppy terrain the lack of flex causes the wheel to skip, rather than flex & stay grounded, which translates to a lack of grip. Also really notice it on off camber sections when you are fighting to hold a line, the stiffness can cause the bike to 'ping' rather than flex & hold.
Also if i've travelled half way across Europe to race, and crack a carbon rim mid practice or on a stage, the chances are i'm not finishing out the day.
Decent aluminium wheelset is lighter than most carbon anyway. Save your money.
Eddy Current
E*POWAH Master
@Rob Hancill its no Dt Swiss ... carbon fiber for enduro it’s not a good idea.
www.pinkbike.com
www.worldwidecyclery.com
You know what’s the weight difference between alloy and carbon rims? 100 grms per hop
Dont let them fool you when you see wheelsets the weight comes from the spokes the hubs and the hop, so If you see a 2 kgs alloy wheels and the a 1.6 carbon set surely you think “oh the carbon” ... the carbon alone is 200 grs, that might matters on a normal bike on a XC course but on a ebike for enduro?
When you think crack don’t think black, when you ear crack think carbon and the CIA
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Review: The DT Swiss EXC 1200 Spline Enduro Wheelset Might Be Too Light - Pinkbike
DT's EXC 1200 wheels are designed for enduro racing, but they didn't withstand our testing.
LG1R Enduro Carbon Wheelset / Cranks Release and Review
e*thirteen has been around for quite a while and through these years they have managed to become one of the most proven and trustworthy component brands in the mountain bike industry. From their notorious Chainguides and Bashguards to their failsafe carbon wheels. We have seen e*thirteen...
www.worldwidecyclery.com
You know what’s the weight difference between alloy and carbon rims? 100 grms per hop
Dont let them fool you when you see wheelsets the weight comes from the spokes the hubs and the hop, so If you see a 2 kgs alloy wheels and the a 1.6 carbon set surely you think “oh the carbon” ... the carbon alone is 200 grs, that might matters on a normal bike on a XC course but on a ebike for enduro?
When you think crack don’t think black, when you ear crack think carbon and the CIA
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Moe Ped
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Yes but haven’t ridden the bike since they were put on, hopefully in the next couple of weeks.
work has picked since Covid lockdown was lifted.
work has picked since Covid lockdown was lifted.
@Rob Hancill its no Dt Swiss ... carbon fiber for enduro it’s not a good idea.
Review: The DT Swiss EXC 1200 Spline Enduro Wheelset Might Be Too Light - Pinkbike
DT's EXC 1200 wheels are designed for enduro racing, but they didn't withstand our testing.
LG1R Enduro Carbon Wheelset / Cranks Release and Review
e*thirteen has been around for quite a while and through these years they have managed to become one of the most proven and trustworthy component brands in the mountain bike industry. From their notorious Chainguides and Bashguards to their failsafe carbon wheels. We have seen e*thirteen...
You know what’s the weight difference between alloy and carbon rims? 100 grms per hop
Dont let them fool you when you see wheelsets the weight comes from the spokes the hubs and the hop, so If you see a 2 kgs alloy wheels and the a 1.6 carbon set surely you think “oh the carbon” ... the carbon alone is 200 grs, that might matters on a normal bike on a XC course but on a ebike for enduro?
When you think crack don’t think black, when you ear crack think carbon and the CIA
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I stopped reading that link when they said "E13 has become one of the most proven and trustworthy brands in the industry" Have they even spoke to E13 customers lol
I bought carbon rimmed wheels in '13. An Easton ad that said something about having a 2 year no questions asked warranty sold me into investing in a set. Still using it... doesn't do anything magic, like lean easier. It just is convenient cause it's UST. I'm using some boost conversion kit that consists of 3 spacers (2 for end caps, and 1 for brake rotor). Still using 10 speed too. Running a DH tire on the back to preserve it, with cushcore + snake skin tire up front.
Dan202B
Member
My carbon rims were completely worth the money!!!!
The bike shop threw them in at no additional cost. LOL
The bike shop threw them in at no additional cost. LOL
High Rock Ruti
Active member
Dan202B
Member
Paid 4500 after tax with carbon rims for a full carbon Ibis Ripmo. Maybe that is not a good deal to you?
Rosemount
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FR 560 rated 140 Kg and E bike rim 150 Kg . I was looking at DT swiss rims last night .
DT Swiss FR560 32H 30mm 27.5" Recommended System Weight Max: 140 kg . DT Swiss HX531 36H 30mm 27.5" (650B) E-Bike Rim Recommended System Weight Max: 150 kg
Had a good look and comparison . The two rims have same internal diameter but different shape profiles .
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Ive tried a few different carbon rims over the years, and IMO its not the right material to use for a rim if you're going to be hammering it hard over rocks etc. I've now switched back to alu rims because I kept breaking the carbon rims, for me there was no performance benefit, but they were significantly less durable than much cheaper aluminium rims. I've never damaged an aluminium rim so much that it cant continue to be used, but I have destroyed carbon rims.
There's no absolute black and white though and it depends on how you ride, where you ride, what you ride etc , I can see that some people might prefer carbon rims, but for me I wouldnt consider them.
There's no absolute black and white though and it depends on how you ride, where you ride, what you ride etc , I can see that some people might prefer carbon rims, but for me I wouldnt consider them.
Eddy Current
E*POWAH Master
@Rob Rides EMTB read this. These knight composites guys are to enve what unparallel were to 5ten ... maybe they can send you some set to try.
www.dirtmerchantbikes.com
2017 Carbon Wheel Comparison Test: Enve M70 HV, Knight Composites Enduro, Light Bicycle, Nox Composites Farlow, Stans Flow Mk3 reviewed — DIRT MERCHANT BIKES
Carbon Wheels compared in an A/B test format
www.dirtmerchantbikes.com
elyhim
Member
I bought a set of Nobl rims TR37 for my SL. I had them built with Sapim Xrays with 240 exp hubs. They are worth it imo with a lifetime warranty. I bought them to test whether there would be a noticeable difference. Previous bike has DT Swiss H1700 and the SL with Rovals. The performance was much better with the carbon wheels. It wasn't the weight as precise handling. Example: Regular trail with a drop and then 90° between tree and fall away to a lake. I gained a new line coming out the inside line at speed rather than slowing and hitting the outside line. I will be calling Nobl to configure a set for the full Levo as well.
roboticinvesting
Active member
Totally respectfully disagree - I have Nobl TR41's and I find them very precise in the handling and they have been very strong. I smash them through the toughest of rocky terrain, jump them at bike park jump lines and in general ride them hard and they have been nothing short of amazing in terms of bike feel and responsiveness. I am trying to figure out a way to come up with the funds to put them on my DH (non-eMTB) as the feel is that good and I trust their strength.
Right on, Robo.
This is the 21st century. Fighter aircraft and supercars are made of carbon fiber. Aluminum is used for beer cans and foil hats.
This is the 21st century. Fighter aircraft and supercars are made of carbon fiber. Aluminum is used for beer cans and foil hats.
Bargain set of Carbon wheels here. These are going on my lightweight SL build.
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and how were/are they?
You have a weight for the set on Nobl TR41's and which hubs did you go with?
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