But weight aside, do they improve the handling /cornering of the bike more than an alloy set of 29" would?
Ha ha
What a load of absolute rubbish
I don't think Carbon rims is the best way to save weight but I do feel a lighter Emtb handles loads better.
What does your Kenevo weigh @Al Boneta ?
@Adasb many people feel carbon rims handle worse than alu because of the extra stiffness. I haven't ridden enough on carbon wheels to make an opinion. I also like stiff wheels so might actually like the added stiffness more than others. Even though I haven't broken one for years I still think of rims as disposible items so there's no way I'd be willing to pay carbon rim prices
Crossmax Sls were what? 1400g a set? Leaving you 600g for 2 tyres and whatever you used to keep air in them? I can't think of one single tyre that's decent in mud under 300g so my money's on your tyres not the lower rotating mass that made the bike shit in mud.I was speaking from experience on my Klien Adroit which had rim brake Cross Max SL and 2.0/1.8 Tires - both wheels and tires weighed Less than 2KG.
But weight aside, do they improve the handling /cornering of the bike more than an alloy set of 29" would?
It weighed 52.38lbs out of the box for my large. I weighed all of the other larges in the shop and this one was the second lightest with the wheels off, I don’t remember what that number was, but I chose the second lightest one because it felt snappier when I rode all 12 Larges in my parking lot cutties test.Thanks for the Kenevo weight. But I was interested in knowing what Al's personal bike weighed.
Move to HollandCheaper to buy a spare battery!!! seriously though the usual tips will apply - pump the tires up hard, go tubeless, only use ECO, and plan routes that dont involve hills!!!
Dont forget to Ti your motor fixing bolts + nylocs - mine only came with a Ti rear skid plate bolt - cos its right in the firing line for everything from the rear wheel.It weighed 52.38lbs out of the box for my large. I weighed all of the other larges in the shop and this one was the second lightest with the wheels off, I don’t remember what that number was, but I chose the second lightest one because it felt snappier when I rode all 12 Larges in my parking lot cutties test.
I didn’t weigh all the wheelsets on all of the Kenevos like I do when I buy a Levo, because knew I wasn’t going to use them.
The Command Post WU was pretty heavy and I really hated the way it worked and didn’t go high enough and the stack height was taller than I wanted. I replaced it with the 34.9x185mm BikeYoke XL. That saved almost a full pound. The Roval wheels dropped a bunch of weight as well. The handlebars were switched to 800mm S-Works DH bars. There are other bars that are a tad lighter, but I love the bend and sweep of these so much, I have a hard time getting used to any thing else. All bolts and hardware that could be replaced with Ti-Springs Ti-bolts kit were changed out. The shock spring was also replaced by a Titanium spring a friend who does custom motorcross suspension made for me. I thought about maybe turning that into a business venture making a whole range of springs for other Kenevo owner’s but realized quickly that it would have a huge pain in the ass dealing with whiny Kenevo owners. Next year there will more than likely be an all new Kenevo anyway, so I killed that plan.
My Hayes Dominion A4 brakes with Ti hardware weigh a 100g less than the codes I took off.
All of that made the bike just under 48lbs.
With the BLK DMND Butchers it went to 49lbs.
I could change the tires and put a lighter stem and seat on it and I might have gotten it down to 46-47lbs but I like the the setup right now.
As for the motor nuts I use grade 8 nylock with lock washers. I don’t trust Ti for this after I cracked one.Dont forget to Ti your motor fixing bolts + nylocs - mine only came with a Ti rear skid plate bolt - cos its right in the firing line for everything from the rear wheel.
I had the 17 Expert and went to the 18 Expert with carbon wheels I would say honestly no it isn’t worth it at all. My bike feels much more skittish on the carbon hoops. I think I was quicker on the Ali wheels even with the less capable fork on the 17 specially on tight twisty Singletrack.To those that have carbon rims and especially those who have made the switch to carbon, is it worth it to upgrade to carbon rims?
Does the motor negate the rotational weight disadvantage of aluminum? Do you have to run heavier tires or inserts with carbon because of the increased bike weight?
Are EMTBs with carbon rims more prone to injury than on regular bikes?
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Isn’t there an internal rim with change as well as a suspension travel change on those two bikes??I had the 17 Expert and went to the 18 Expert with carbon wheels I would say honestly no it isn’t worth it at all. My bike feels much more skittish on the carbon hoops. I think I was quicker on the Ali wheels even with the less capable fork on the 17 specially on tight twisty Singletrack.
It has a longer fork so the head angle is more slack now. As theydidnt hange length of tear shock or travel.Fork is different but head angle is the same or so I thought. It’s the less centrifugal force I’m feeling from the lighter wheels. It feels more skittish when the fork is compressed and fully extended so I don’t think geometry has anything to do with it.
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