I have been using these 2 app lately and comparing the features of each. There is a lot to like about both of them, but their differences and features are many and varied.
I found I like to still be in control a bit but let the app decide for me how much power it should give up at any one time during the ride. What I want is the greatest battery power savings without me having to work the pedals and end up in a heap on the floor. These are pedal assist bikes after all, so we may as well use the power they have, but being careful not to be too greedy and waste valuable battery capacity.
I have decided to do this test to give me an idea about of what each app will give me ( or not give me) in there similar modes. eGENESIS (eg) with it’s Auto mode, and BLEvo (bl) with its Smart Power mode.
First up, a bit about the test loop, the conditions on the day, and me, the rider and the trusty bike.
The loop was a touch shy of 12km but recorded as 11.85 and 12.01 km for the same loop. Made up of about 75% road and path, and 25% fire road. There was one large uphill path (which was done twice) that was a bit steep requiring Turbo on both rides. One fast jumpy downhill fire road ( done twice) and the rest was a mix of all between. I tried to keep all coasting sections the same and replicate each ride as best I could.
Me, well i’m a bit of a clydesdale at 114kg kitted up. I have a heart condition and I really should not push over 160bpm. (Sometimes I do) So i’m all for not working hard on the bike. The Levo is a 2018 comp, X.23 battery firmware with the remote on the bar. The tyres are a Butcher up front @ 18psi and a DHR up back @22psi.
Sorry bout the blab, hope you’re still there.
Please keep in mind the following is purely my opinion and you may have different needs and different views.
Let’s kick off with the eGENESIS set in Auto. The temp was 18 deg c and the wind 10knts from the SW pushing me up the hills. I like to have turbo set with 100% peak power (pp) and 100% assist as when I want power.. I want it all !
You set the max legs so the assistant increases after you pedal past that power threshold. I set it to 120w, so I would have to at least reach this power from my legs before the assist increased. It also has a max below that will decrease the max legs by the set value each hour you ride. So after an hour you don’t have to pedal as hard. It’s a nice feature to have and puts another auto step into the Auto if you like.
Next we set the peak power (pp). Well as I said, sometimes I like it all so I set it at 100%. This is not adjustable for each mode. You will get 10O% pp in eco, trail or turbo, reguardless. This to me is a big letdown. So to continue I set the assistance to 20% eco 75% trail 100% turbo.
The ride was a rush, I was caining along in eco as it was giving me 20 assist and 100% pp before I knew it. I breezed up some slight hills and in fact I done All of the ride in eco, with the exception of the big steep hill that was done twice in turbo.
Other notes when changing the modes with the remote, there was a slight lag in changing, but performance was spot on the rest of the time.
At the end of the ride I had 77% battery left, felt good, and had returned home to rest while the bike recharged ready for the BLEvo test.
Ok now for the BLEvo report.
The temp now was 3deg hotter @ 21deg c. The wind was now from the north NE at 11knts now making for a headwind for the uphill sections as opposed to the previous tailwind with eg.
Enter the bike set up screen and here I was able to set the pp in each mode. 15% eco. 60% trail 100% turbo. Next was the bike monitor screen where I tapped config and then smart power config. Here I was able to set the max legs and in trying to keep it as equal as I set it at 120w also. In the assist feilds Min was set at 1% and Max 100% the same as the eg app which I forgot to mention before. And the same values for the assist levels @ 20, 75 & 100%.
I was happy I could change all the pp levels for each mode as I could not do this on the eg app. I did however think it a bit strange to have to do it on a different page. But once set, its set and forget mostly.
On the ride I instantly notice not as much power, but I did not need it, and it did not make me work any harder. No use wasting power if it ain’t needed. I used the remote like a front shifter on an old 3x9 system. Eco on the flats, little hill up to trail, big hill, turbo. This works remarkably well and you feel in control. There was no lag switching between modes either and I felt relaxed and the power delivery felt natural where the eg app felt a little surgery.
I had 82% battery left at the end of the ride and I did not feel I worked any harder at all. That’s a 5% saving over the eg app, on a very short 12km loop. Good stuff.?
Conclusion...
I’m going to have to give it to BLEvo for this particular test. It used less battery in slightly tougher conditions and never left me feeling I wanted more or like I just done 10 rounds. It has the total package of adjustability and if you want to adjust the max legs if you tire, you can do so at the bottom of the ride display screen as you ride.
The eGENESIS app is also a fantastic app. It does pack in a whole lot more than I have mentioned above and a lot more than BLEvo. But do you really need all that extra ? For me the answer is no, your answer may be different. I’m more of a find a feature I like, set it and forget, keep it simple kind of guy.
Two great apps, and thanks to the developers for putting them out there. Give em a try, see what you like. I believe it’s the BLEvo for me.
Below I will post some screen shots BLEvo first followed by similar eGENESIS. Then the data recorded from my Garmin Vivoactive 3 for both rides including heart rate zones bl first and eg after.
The orange graph on the last 2pics is battery use age.
Just give us a sec to upload the screen shots.
Cheers.
I found I like to still be in control a bit but let the app decide for me how much power it should give up at any one time during the ride. What I want is the greatest battery power savings without me having to work the pedals and end up in a heap on the floor. These are pedal assist bikes after all, so we may as well use the power they have, but being careful not to be too greedy and waste valuable battery capacity.
I have decided to do this test to give me an idea about of what each app will give me ( or not give me) in there similar modes. eGENESIS (eg) with it’s Auto mode, and BLEvo (bl) with its Smart Power mode.
First up, a bit about the test loop, the conditions on the day, and me, the rider and the trusty bike.
The loop was a touch shy of 12km but recorded as 11.85 and 12.01 km for the same loop. Made up of about 75% road and path, and 25% fire road. There was one large uphill path (which was done twice) that was a bit steep requiring Turbo on both rides. One fast jumpy downhill fire road ( done twice) and the rest was a mix of all between. I tried to keep all coasting sections the same and replicate each ride as best I could.
Me, well i’m a bit of a clydesdale at 114kg kitted up. I have a heart condition and I really should not push over 160bpm. (Sometimes I do) So i’m all for not working hard on the bike. The Levo is a 2018 comp, X.23 battery firmware with the remote on the bar. The tyres are a Butcher up front @ 18psi and a DHR up back @22psi.
Sorry bout the blab, hope you’re still there.
Please keep in mind the following is purely my opinion and you may have different needs and different views.
Let’s kick off with the eGENESIS set in Auto. The temp was 18 deg c and the wind 10knts from the SW pushing me up the hills. I like to have turbo set with 100% peak power (pp) and 100% assist as when I want power.. I want it all !
You set the max legs so the assistant increases after you pedal past that power threshold. I set it to 120w, so I would have to at least reach this power from my legs before the assist increased. It also has a max below that will decrease the max legs by the set value each hour you ride. So after an hour you don’t have to pedal as hard. It’s a nice feature to have and puts another auto step into the Auto if you like.
Next we set the peak power (pp). Well as I said, sometimes I like it all so I set it at 100%. This is not adjustable for each mode. You will get 10O% pp in eco, trail or turbo, reguardless. This to me is a big letdown. So to continue I set the assistance to 20% eco 75% trail 100% turbo.
The ride was a rush, I was caining along in eco as it was giving me 20 assist and 100% pp before I knew it. I breezed up some slight hills and in fact I done All of the ride in eco, with the exception of the big steep hill that was done twice in turbo.
Other notes when changing the modes with the remote, there was a slight lag in changing, but performance was spot on the rest of the time.
At the end of the ride I had 77% battery left, felt good, and had returned home to rest while the bike recharged ready for the BLEvo test.
Ok now for the BLEvo report.
The temp now was 3deg hotter @ 21deg c. The wind was now from the north NE at 11knts now making for a headwind for the uphill sections as opposed to the previous tailwind with eg.
Enter the bike set up screen and here I was able to set the pp in each mode. 15% eco. 60% trail 100% turbo. Next was the bike monitor screen where I tapped config and then smart power config. Here I was able to set the max legs and in trying to keep it as equal as I set it at 120w also. In the assist feilds Min was set at 1% and Max 100% the same as the eg app which I forgot to mention before. And the same values for the assist levels @ 20, 75 & 100%.
I was happy I could change all the pp levels for each mode as I could not do this on the eg app. I did however think it a bit strange to have to do it on a different page. But once set, its set and forget mostly.
On the ride I instantly notice not as much power, but I did not need it, and it did not make me work any harder. No use wasting power if it ain’t needed. I used the remote like a front shifter on an old 3x9 system. Eco on the flats, little hill up to trail, big hill, turbo. This works remarkably well and you feel in control. There was no lag switching between modes either and I felt relaxed and the power delivery felt natural where the eg app felt a little surgery.
I had 82% battery left at the end of the ride and I did not feel I worked any harder at all. That’s a 5% saving over the eg app, on a very short 12km loop. Good stuff.?
Conclusion...
I’m going to have to give it to BLEvo for this particular test. It used less battery in slightly tougher conditions and never left me feeling I wanted more or like I just done 10 rounds. It has the total package of adjustability and if you want to adjust the max legs if you tire, you can do so at the bottom of the ride display screen as you ride.
The eGENESIS app is also a fantastic app. It does pack in a whole lot more than I have mentioned above and a lot more than BLEvo. But do you really need all that extra ? For me the answer is no, your answer may be different. I’m more of a find a feature I like, set it and forget, keep it simple kind of guy.
Two great apps, and thanks to the developers for putting them out there. Give em a try, see what you like. I believe it’s the BLEvo for me.
Below I will post some screen shots BLEvo first followed by similar eGENESIS. Then the data recorded from my Garmin Vivoactive 3 for both rides including heart rate zones bl first and eg after.
The orange graph on the last 2pics is battery use age.
Just give us a sec to upload the screen shots.
Cheers.
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