Bafang m510

[thaeber]

For M510 FC1.0 you have 2 firmware whithout delay between crank armq stop and motor stop: 3.2 and 3.1-CS

About "err 27", on mine bike. dengfu E10 with dengfu battery, i have one switch on button for the battery on frame, this button is connected to the battery throug the 2 little pins on the lower battery suport. Several other guys had problem with this switch. To solve it, we have canceled this switch, by welding togetherer the 2 thin cables from this switch inside the battery

Would You share all the firmware You have, on GitHub for example?

Ah now I see - only talking about FC 1.0…

 

[patdam]

Would You share all the firmware You have, on GitHub for example?

Ah now I see - only talking about FC 1.0…

HI.
yes, i haven't firmware for FC2.0. I have lot FC1.0 from bafang, but all who function (not all), have gap between crancks stop and motor stop. finally i stay on 3.2 or 3.1-CS. imn't sure (that need i exchange the motors to confirm), but it seem that FC1.0 consume less than FC2.0, have tou the same feeling ?

 

[Sheff73]

I also think to use a 510 V2 with a 52V battery. Is that going to work @Sheff73 or someone else?

@raggertje It should work but I cannot confirm yet. I have an FC2.0 controller on order, so will try once it arrives (2-3 weeks). The problem we are likely to have is that the display will not show the correct battery voltage / level, as the controller firmware is likely setup for 48V not 52V unfortunately. We need Bafang to create a 52V firmware for the FC2.0.

 

[thaeber]

HI.
yes, i haven't firmware for FC2.0. I have lot FC1.0 from bafang, but all who function (not all), have gap between crancks stop and motor stop. finally i stay on 3.2 or 3.1-CS. imn't sure (that need i exchange the motors to confirm), but it seem that FC1.0 consume less than FC2.0, have tou the same feeling ?

No not at all. Same battery consumption as before, and I think I can compare it quite well running my standard evening round.

 

[PitcairN]

Hi guys, can someone recommend me where to buy new FC 1.0 controller?

 

[Dado]

Hi guys, can someone recommend me where to buy new FC 1.0 controller?

Selling full motor set M510 FC1.0, brand new 0km. 500e plus shipping.

 

[PitcairN]

Selling full motor set M510 FC1.0, brand new 0km. 500e plus shipping.

Thanks for an offer, but i only need a controller...

 

[temon10]

Hi guys, can someone recommend me where to buy new FC 1.0 controller?

buy FC 2.0 controller, it 's compatible with 1.0 motor and will be better.

 

[Andy5]

buy FC 2.0 controller, it 's compatible with 1.0 motor and will be better.

According GBK torque sensor from FC 1.0 is not compatible with FC 2.0 motor.-see GBK: "There are two types of Bafang M510 torque sensors, one is for FC1.0 M510 motor and the other is for FC2.0 M510 motor, the torsion sensor model begins with "SR" is for FC1.0 and "GR" torque sensor is for FC2.0 motor. Currently our M510 torsion sensors are only for M510 FC1.0 motor, it will not fit for FC2.0 motor, please note".

 

[patdam]

interesting graph of vitus E-mythique motor setting

First Ride: The New Vitus E-Mythique LT - Pinkbike

An eMTB that doesn't cost as much as a car? Preposterous.

www.pinkbike.com

 

[PitcairN]

buy FC 2.0 controller, it 's compatible with 1.0 motor and will be better.

Well they send me a brand new engine, so i'm fine now. Also FC 1.0 and FC 2.0 controllers are not interchangeable like dude below you said here. It is due to different torque sensor used, i read it as well.

 

[temon10]

According GBK torque sensor from FC 1.0 is not compatible with FC 2.0 motor.-see GBK: "There are two types of Bafang M510 torque sensors, one is for FC1.0 M510 motor and the other is for FC2.0 M510 motor, the torsion sensor model begins with "SR" is for FC1.0 and "GR" torque sensor is for FC2.0 motor. Currently our M510 torsion sensors are only for M510 FC1.0 motor, it will not fit for FC2.0 motor, please note".

ok noted, will try it first.

 

[Dado]

Well they send me a brand new engine, so i'm fine now. Also FC 1.0 and FC 2.0 controllers are not interchangeable like dude below you said here. It is due to different torque sensor used, i read it as well.

Hope they have used now better TS, with better sensitivity and water proofing. So maybe one day bafang get also to Bosch smooth response to pedalling. This is the main issue, when people sit on Bafang first time, they dont like behaviour and decide to buy other motor.

I dont care about behaviour of TS, I am riding now almost all time full throttle. I was ok also to ride without TS with my lovely Bafang HD.

 

[iscander13]

Hope they have used now better TS, with better sensitivity and water proofing. So maybe one day bafang get also to Bosch smooth response to pedalling. This is the main issue, when people sit on Bafang first time, they dont like behaviour and decide to buy other motor.

I dont care about behaviour of TS, I am riding now almost all time full throttle. I was ok also to ride without TS with my lovely Bafang HD.

My buddy rides trails in the suburbs of Bratislava (great trails, he gains 1000m of elevation in one ride). Do you ride down trails also on max assist? It's very difficult to go on full throttle on loose slopes uphill.

 

[Dado]

My buddy rides trails in the suburbs of Bratislava (great trails, he gains 1000m of elevation in one ride). Do you ride down trails also on max assist? It's very difficult to go on full throttle on loose slopes uphill.

Ou really? Yes, we have few good trails around. Some legal, some illegal.
Yes, also pushing throttle down the hill, especially on races, but it is dangerous. You get speed over 60kmh very quickly.

 

[PitcairN]

Hope they have used now better TS, with better sensitivity and water proofing. So maybe one day bafang get also to Bosch smooth response to pedalling. This is the main issue, when people sit on Bafang first time, they dont like behaviour and decide to buy other motor.

I dont care about behaviour of TS, I am riding now almost all time full throttle. I was ok also to ride without TS with my lovely Bafang HD.

Tbh so far i'm quite happy with M510. It has very good power level stepping a pulls uphills like nothing. Only downside that i saw well more likely hear, is that it is a bit loud for my taste. I have also throttle installed + shift sensor. Throttle pulls 19A almost instantly no matter power level, fun to ride and little bit dangerous sometimes. But nothing compares to my old BBS02B build, that thing pulled like cargo train and was dead silent...

 

[Dado]

I was also surprised about louder M510. In high rpms - high pitch sound. Seems like Bafang put higher max rotor rpms. Better bearings should help.

Now imagine M600 where throttle worked only according PASS level.
Anyway, does your throttle works also over 32kmh?

So you would need an upgrade to M560 750W to catch BBS02

 

[iscander13]

Ou really? Yes, we have few good trails around. Some legal, some illegal.
Yes, also pushing throttle down the hill, especially on races, but it is dangerous. You get speed over 60kmh very quickly.

He uses an acoustic bike. 1000 meters in 2 hours ride looks like nice hills all around

 

[Dado]

Yes, thats my favourite gravity trails - Called BK trails and Slalomka. Been riding it and training a lot on these trails.
I know it is not belonging here, sorry for spam, guys. If you show up in Bratislava, you would know where to go ride. On top of BK is also nice food shop where all bikers are meeting up, so in a nice day you can find there even 100 bikers.

 

[PitcairN]

I was also surprised about louder M510. In high rpms - high pitch sound. Seems like Bafang put higher max rotor rpms. Better bearings should help.

Now imagine M600 where throttle worked only according PASS level.
Anyway, does your throttle works also over 32kmh?

So you would need an upgrade to M560 750W to catch BBS02

High pitch sound exactly.

Throttle does work until it reaches maximum speed limit set in controller. I set max speed limit to 45 km and throttle worked until 45 km/h.

Yes M560 looks tempting, according to Bafang's official specs list, it looks like one hell of a motor. 140nm of torque, 750w, just slightly more heavier than M510. Targeted mainly at cargo ebikes.

 

[Dado]

Do you have FC1?

FC2.0 36V run only to 32kmh.

 

[ficorama]

Do you have FC1?

FC2.0 36V run only to 32kmh.

FC 2.0 36v is limited to 32km/h. but, when I pedal and pass 32 the motor still gives support. when I stop pedaling and the speed is higher than 32 and start pedaling again, the motor does not support until the speed drops below 32.

 

[Zimmerframe]

OK, as I have a 510 on order, I just spent 2 days ! reading all 58 pages of this thread (I'd read quite a bit previously, but didn't want to miss any vital information).

Following on from that, I've created a separate thread for M510 Firmwares :

Bafang M510 Firmware thread

Hi Guys, Having just read all 58 pages of the 510 thread, it's clear you need a separate thread to put the firmwares in. If you put them in here, with the number and explain what the differences are and if it's FC1 or FC2 and the voltage. I'll report this and ask a mod to set it as a sticky.

www.emtbforums.com

I'll ask the mods to make it a sticky.

To make life easier for everyone coming and looking so they don't have to read 58 pages ... post your firmwares/details like FC1.0 2.0 , voltage and any relevant information about that firmware in there.

 

[iscander13]

Guys, do you have a short term increase in assist while riding, it looks like you add 1 level for 1-2 seconds and go back to the previous assist level. I have a very stifled eco mode and this happens sometimes. Has anyone had this happen to anyone else?

 

[PitcairN]

Do you have FC1?

FC2.0 36V run only to 32kmh.

Yes, FC 1.0 firmware. It is not limited to 32Km/h here. Seems like FC 2.0 is hard coded to 32 km/h, which sux big time tbh.

 

[Dado]

FC 2.0 36v is limited to 32km/h. but, when I pedal and pass 32 the motor still gives support. when I stop pedaling and the speed is higher than 32 and start pedaling again, the motor does not support until the speed drops below 32.

Yes, FC2.0 throttle only up to 32kmh. Or you saying it wont start assisting on pedalling when over 32 and you need to slow under 32 first? Have not noticed this. That would be again crazy from Bafang.

 

[ficorama]

Yes, FC2.0 throttle only up to 32kmh. Or you saying it wont start assisting on pedalling when over 32 and you need to slow under 32 first? Have not noticed this. That would be again crazy from Bafang.

when I pedal constantly I managed to reach 42 km/h and the engine still works.

 

[PitcairN]

when I pedal constantly I managed to reach 42 km/h and the engine still works.

But we were talking about throttle support, only throttle without pedaling. So what is your max speed limit setting?

 

[macintoshcz]

Hello, does anyone have tried bafang m510 with external controllers? i am curious how much wattage could this motor withstand. Thanks!

 

[Dado]

Hello, does anyone have tried bafang m510 with external controllers? i am curious how much wattage could this motor withstand. Thanks!

Depends for how long. )
Cca 700W conti.