Anyone received their Speedbox 1.2B (Bosch rim magnet version) yet?

[DOMBUSH]

On the website they said it would start shipping in January.
Anyone ordered / received one yet?

 

[davosaurusrex]

Says end of Jan, doesn't it? Interested to see how well they work

 

[DOMBUSH]

Says end of Jan, doesn't it? Interested to see how well they work

Yes, mostly interested to see if the combination of the increasingly sophisticated restriction code and the rim magnet / motor mounted sensor will be difficult to make reliable.

Also, pricing is beyond what i imagine most would want to pay as an increment over buying the bike.

So, interested to see if it proves popular / reliable.

 

[NickyTee]

On the website they said it would start shipping in January.
Anyone ordered / received one yet?

Yeah, a friend of mine pre-ordered in November and received it last Thursday.
He doesn't ride in the winter much, because it destroys the trails, so I don't imagine he'll get it fitted and ridden anytime soon. Winter is for road/gravel miles.

 

[DOMBUSH]

It would be great if he could open it and give us a view of what you get and the quality of the connectors?

 

[davosaurusrex]

Yeah, a friend of mine pre-ordered in November and received it last Thursday.
He doesn't ride in the winter much, because it destroys the trails, so I don't imagine he'll get it fitted and ridden anytime soon. Winter is for road/gravel miles.


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Well, that's not helpful! Also wrong, winter riding is hilarious on ebikes! Our trails don't see much traffic so doesn't create a problem. Although the cleaning probably doesn't do the bikes much good....

Anyway, tell him to send it to me and I'll test it for him, free of charge!

 

[cozzy]

Who else specs these awful rim magnets?
I know pole do as I've ordered one, but being a small manufacturer allow you to change to a rotor magnet.

 

[davosaurusrex]

Canyon and Orbea for two

 

[Anders]

My Haibike uses a rim magnet

 

[FlobossX]

It would be great if he could open it and give us a view of what you get and the quality of the connectors?

I ordered one this weekend. Shipped Monday, headed to the US. Got a notification this evening that it’s in the customs clearance process. Ill
Post some pictures once I receive.

 

[NickyTee]

It would be great if he could open it and give us a view of what you get and the quality of the connectors?

Sure, here you go. Not sure how you can tell the quality of connectors by looking at a pic, but they look good IRL

Well, that's not helpful!

Well, apologies for answering the OP's question and not fielding any others I didn't forsee you had

 

[cozzy]

What's that long cable in the bottom pic? It looks like a Bosch speed sensor cable that runs to the rotor magnet.

 

[davosaurusrex]

Sure, here you go. Not sure how you can tell the quality of connectors by looking at a pic, but they look good IRL

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Well, apologies for answering the OP's question and not fielding any others I didn't forsee you had

I meant that's not helpful that he's not installing it and giving the desperate masses the first feedback!
But yes, if you could read my mind in future that would be super, thanks!

 

[NickyTee]

What's that long cable in the bottom pic? It looks like a Bosch speed sensor cable that runs to the rotor magnet.

No rotor magnet. Watch the first 1:20 of the video

Also, better pics than mine here.

Tuning chip for e-bikes with Bosch motors with Smart system and Rim Magnet - Package: BOX, Qty: 1 pcs

PROPERTIES: Maximum speed: Unlimited (max 35 km/h recommended) Display shows: &nbsp Real speed: NO &nbsp Correct travelled distance: After the countdown process is &nbsp finished) Activation/deactivation (do not perform while riding): &nbsp WALK function / - + - + Indication of ...

www.speedbox-tuning.uk

 

[NickyTee]

I meant that's not helpful that he's not installing it and giving the desperate masses the first feedback!
But yes, if you could read my mind in future that would be super, thanks!

I know, just teasing

On it with the mind reading!

 

[Polar]

Won't take many months until Bosch have made a program to block and discover this item

 

[cozzy]

No rotor magnet. Watch the first 1:20 of the video

Also, better pics than mine here.

Tuning chip for e-bikes with Bosch motors with Smart system and Rim Magnet - Package: BOX, Qty: 1 pcs

PROPERTIES: Maximum speed: Unlimited (max 35 km/h recommended) Display shows: &nbsp Real speed: NO &nbsp Correct travelled distance: After the countdown process is &nbsp finished) Activation/deactivation (do not perform while riding): &nbsp WALK function / - + - + Indication of ...

www.speedbox-tuning.uk

Oh I see. It just replaces the rim magnet with a spoke magnet. I thought it would be cleverer than that to be honest, more like the megabobra one I've seen on here.
Fortunately pole allow you to change from rim magnet to rotor magnet then buy a cheaper delimiter if you choose.
I guess most of the bigger manufacturers dont allow this though.

 

[NickyTee]

Oh I see. It just replaces the rim magnet with a spoke magnet. I thought it would be cleverer than that to be honest, more like the megabobra one I've seen on here.
Fortunately pole allow you to change from rim magnet to rotor magnet then buy a cheaper delimiter if you're choose.
I guess most of the bigger manufacturers dont allow this though.

Early adopters only had a choice of one.

Guessing that the difference for a pricier delimiter is less than that of a new Voima swingarm

 

[davosaurusrex]

£300+ to go backwards to a scabby old spoke magnet? I'm just going to live with it at the moment

 

[cozzy]

Won't take many months until Bosch have made a program to block and discover this item

Ha ha yes, I worked in IT long enough to have learnt not to update anything that's working.

Early adopters only had a choice of one.

Guessing that the difference for a pricier delimiter is less than that of a new Voima swingarm

It looks like the original, with the machined in brake mount posts, has the bit to connect the external sensor. The bosch parts are about £45.
Then a competent dealer visit to change from rim to rotor pickup.

 

[NickyTee]

Ha ha yes, I worked in IT long enough to have learnt not to update anything that's working.

It looks like the original, with the machined in brake mount posts, has the bit to connect the external sensor. The bosch parts are about £45.
Then a competent dealer visit to change from rim to rotor pickup.

Ah yes - Convert from rim to rotor magnet?

 

[cozzy]

Ah yes - Convert from rim to rotor magnet?

Yes my voima is build week 6 now after a delay, so supposedly next week . YAY!
I will update that thread once i have done it. The Bosch guy I've spoke to doesn't see a problem.

 

[NickyTee]

Yes my voima is build week 6 now after a delay, so supposedly next week . YAY!
I will update that thread once i have done it. The Bosch guy I've spoke to doesn't see a problem.

That would seem like a tidier solution than the 1.2b, I'll tell my friend.

Enjoy your Voima, it's a ripper!

 

[DOMBUSH]

Sure, here you go. Not sure how you can tell the quality of connectors by looking at a pic, but they look good IRL

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Well, apologies for answering the OP's question and not fielding any others I didn't forsee you had

Thanks NickyTee - looks professional (and particularly complicated), now just to see if it avoids triggering errors after fitment.

 

[E Bob]

Mine arrived friday, Hopefully get it mounted next week. Expensive bundle of wires but Got to be derestricted...

 

[dlowe]

Mine has arrived too, but sadly, I can't get the bluetooth to connect, nor do I have a kiox display to test the magnet strength (or all the other things the display is used for!)

I guess I have a dodgy device... Tried app permissions, reboots etc etc.... no luck

 

[E Bob]

Ahhh.. i'v been posting my experience on "derestricting bosch smart system" yes i also cant get it to connect, it finds it but then wont go past the connecting page. it worked up n down the street but iv not had time to take up moun tain yet.

 

[davosaurusrex]

Not sounding great really, seems like a very expensive Beta product so far

 

[Mike72]

I received mine today, installed it on the bike and i have the exact same problem... I emailed them, lets hope for a solution soon... It finds the module but it hangs on connecting to the app. i can not start it by walk button either...

 

[Mike72]

They updated the app to v2.16, now it works fine