2020 Specialized levo/kenevo rumors?

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33red

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Why do people assume Fox is better than RS? From my experience the mid level RS forks are better than the Fox equivalents, and IMO the Lyric Ultimate shades it over the Fox Factory 36 at the moment too, mainly due to it having the edge on smoothing out trail chatter.
Often it is a memory. Riders get a very affordable bike, decide they want to ride a lot, buy a better bike and boom brand x or y or z is great because it is not entry level. I see it on fat bikes. The original tire was so cheap that they love an average tire having never tried better. I never had a problem with RS, Fox and another brand probably because for low price i buy used not entry level.
 

coggbike

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I also ordered the 2020 Turbo Levo Expert Carbon in Gloss Carbon/Gun Metal. The price is $8,225.00, with delivery "sometime in August". I can't stand any of the 2019 color options, so I ended up ordering the 2020. Almost went for the 2019 S-Works for an even $10k, but just couldn't quite justify the cost difference.

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Here are the specs:
FRAME FACT 9m Carbon w/ M5 alloy rear triangle, 29 Trail Geometry, Integrated down tube battery, enclosed internal cable, Command Post routing, 148mm spacing, fully sealed cartridge
bearings, 150mm of travel

FORK Fox 36 Performance, 150mm travel, Grip damper with 3 position micro adjust, 51mm offset

REAR SHOCK FOX FLOAT DPS Performance, 3-position adjustment, 52.5x210mm, Rx Trail Tune

FRONT HUB Specialized, sealed cartridge bearings, 15x110mm spacing, 28h

REAR HUB DT Swiss 360, 3-pawl design, SRAM XD driver body, 12mm thru-axle, 148mm spacing, 28h

SPOKES DT Swiss Competition Race

RIMS Roval Traverse 29, hookless alloy, 30mm width, hand-built, 2Bliss Ready

INNER TUBES Standard, Presta valve

FRONT TIRE Butcher, GRID TRAIL casing, GRIPTON® compound, 2Bliss Ready, 29x2.6"

REAR TIRE Eliminator, BLCK DMND Casing, 2Bliss Ready, 29x2.3"

CRANKSET Praxis, 2D cold-forged alloy, custom offset, 165mm

CHAINRINGS 32T, custom steel

SHIFT LEVERS SRAM S700, single-click lever

REAR DERAILLEUR SRAM X1, 11-speed

CASSETTE SRAM XG-1175, 11-speed, 10-42t

CHAIN KMC X11ET, 11-speed w/ Missing Link™

FRONT BRAKE SRAM Code R, 4-piston caliper, hydraulic disc, 200mm

REAR BRAKE SRAM Code R, 4-piston caliper, hydraulic disc, 200mm

HANDLEBARS Specialized Trail, 7050 alloy, 8-degree backsweep, 6-degree upsweep, 27mm rise, 780mm, 31.8mm clamp

GRIPS Specialized Sip grip, half-waffle, S/M: regular thickness, L/XL: XL thickness

STEM Specialized Trail, forged alloy, 4-bolt, 5mm rise

SADDLE Body Geometry Myth 155 S, Body Geometry Henge 143 M/L/XL, hollow cr-mo rails

SEATPOST Command Post IRcc, 16-position micro-height adjustable, two-bolt head, bottom mount cable routing, remote SRL lever, 34.9mm, S: 130mm, M/L/XL: 160mm of travel

SEAT BINDER Specialized bolt-type, alloy, 38.6mm

SWAT Specialized Z-Cage, Swat CC Multitool in steerer tube without Chaintool

MOTOR Specialized 2.1, custom Rx Trail-tuned motor, 250W nominal

UI/REMOTE Specialized TCU, 10-LED State of charge, 3-LED Ride Mode display, ANT+/Bluetooth®

BATTERY Specialized M2-700, integrated battery w/rock guard, 700Wh

CHARGER Custom charger, 42V4A w/ Rosenberger plug

WIRING HARNESS Custom Specialized wiring harness

PEDALS Specialized Dirt


Any update on delivery? I ordered a 2020 Expert about a week later than you. Chomping at the bit to get it.....
 

rsilvers

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Specialized is not even taking orders for 2020 as far as I know. Dealers are letting their reps know what they want though.

Maybe the bikes are not ready. Or maybe they are trying to sell off the 2019 first.
 
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rsilvers

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Called my dealer and they said they may have an update at the end of this week, but for now, they are guessing September.

So... I asked if I could borrow a demo bike, of any brand. Dealer said "Sure, you can borrow a demo until your bike comes in." Wow. I am blown away.
 

Frano

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Here in Chile, my dealer told me that tomorrow wednesday my bike will arrive.... a blue base model 2020, as soon as I get news I post it.
 

Frano

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I will be stunned if that is true, but we will see.
In Santiago ( the capital of Chile) they already have it, I live 500 kms from there so tomorrow should be here...
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LordExplorer

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Hey all, I’m new here and new to ebikes. I’m looking at getting a Specialized but hoped for some opinions. My local shop currently has the Levo Comp Carbon on sale for $5900, the Levo expert for $7k and the Kenevo Expert for $5600 (all 2019s). I’m torn on which to get, largely because I’m getting back into mountain biking after a 15 yr distraction into dirt bikes and adventure bikes. I’m 6’3” and 225#. My skill, and fitness, level is weak now, but I’m very comfortable on two wheels on dirt.

Here’s where I’m hoping to get opinions. 1. Are these “go for it now” prices, especially on Levo considering popularity? 2. Is the Levo Expert worth the extra cost considering I’m nowhere near an “expert”. I know the larger battery is definitely an upside. 3. For someone who will just get on and ride the regular/basic trails in the Colorado foothills (I guess a lot aren’t “basic”), but sometimes go big on exploring deep into the mountains, is the Levo a better fit over Kenevo? I’ve read some reviews that say the Kenevo is impressive and fun, even for people not focused on bombing downhill.

Thanks for the insight. Thought this would be a good thread to post in as you all have some experience. Flame me if I’m wrong and should move this post
 
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rsilvers

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I got a 2020 Comp on order. The Expert would have cost me $1600 more and have the same 700Wh battery. $1600 to drop maybe 1-2 lbs is no worth it to me.

Given your weight, you probably do want the 700Wh battery, but you could get it in a 2020 Comp.

As for your prices, I can't tell as you didn't list what year they were. Are they 2019? They are 15% off. That is a normal to decent discount on a 2019 as of this last week as Specialized put some (mostly Kenevo) on sale for that. If they are 2018, then I would say it is a bad deal.

I wouldn't buy a Kenevo now as it has the old motor and is two years behind, unless you just needed it and didn't want to wait for the upcoming one, but it is using the 2018 motor.
 
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CjP

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Either bike is fine for adventure. Levo better for climbing, Kenevo better for gravity but both will do the other more than enough.
Personally I’d stick with an expert. Especially on the Levo with the bigger battery but if your going to upgrade parts anyway then maybe the lower spec is for you.
I’ve gotten up to 100kms with the Kenevo on mainly flat trails with high psi in the tires. Average is 50kms on hilly proper mtb.
Really depends where you ride.

I’d say you can’t lose with either one.
 

LordExplorer

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I got a 2020 Comp on order. The Expert would have cost me $1600 more and have the same 700Wh battery. $1600 to drop maybe 1-2 lbs is no worth it to me.

Given your weight, you probably do want the 700Wh battery, but you could get it in a 2020 Comp.

As for your prices, I can't tell as you didn't list what year they were. Are they 2019? They are 15% off. That is a normal to decent discount on a 2019 as of this last week as Specialized put some (mostly Kenevo) on sale for that. If they are 2018, then I would say it is a bad deal.

I wouldn't buy a Kenevo now as it has the old motor and is two years behind, unless you just needed it and didn't want to wait for the upcoming one, but it is using the 2018 motor.

My bad, they are all 2019
 

LordExplorer

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Just note that the 2020 (Aluminum) Comp has the 700wh battery and is probably $6199 MSRP. I would rather have an aluminum 2020 with a 700hr battery than a Carbon 2019 with a 500Wh battery.

Good point. Although I think I’d rather pay $800 more to get the Levo expert with carbon and the bigger battery
 

CjP

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I am predominately gravity focused so I went with the Kenevo and haven’t regretted it one bit.
If climbing/xcountry was my thing I’d definitely go the Levo with the bigger battery.
 

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