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I think the E8000 display can also show you the level of assistance the motor is providing, but only with the E8000 (and EP8?) motor.

Its finally happened - dead motor. Having bought the bike online it wasn't realistic to take the bike back to the retailer, but I have found a local shimano service center who so far seem excellent. Took the bike in, they said they'd check the diagnostic and then send to shimano. Should be...

Did you go directly to madison, or through your LBS? My LBS doesn't have a version of software which can see the battery degradation and when I spoke to madison, they said speak to the LBS as they won't deal with the public directly...

Done BPW a few times with the e bike. I take 2 spare batteries and normally get 10-12 runs in. Its quite a tiring day, but I like the freedom of it, and always enjoy pedaling past the uplift queue! I find the way up is the easy bit TBH!

Perfectly normal. If you look at the charger you'll see the same thing. I think the idea I that the 0v line is connected first.

You can slide the insides out by taking the end caps off. Think its 4 torx screws from memory. I haven't seen inside the L version, but would guess its the same with a spacer. Only way to find out is to take it apart and have a look! Out of interest, what are you planning on doing with the old...

Thanks. What a great shame. I'm amazed that they went to the effort of designing a system to stop you re-celling them. I just can't imagine that many people would want to do so. I'm guessing that's the first shimano battery they tried if it didn't work at the end?

Thats a great shame. What are the symptoms? Does it just refuse to turn the FETs on, or does it refuse to charge as well?

Do you know for a fact you can't re-pack the cells, or is that just an assumption? When I had a quick look inside the battery it didn't look too difficult to repack from a physical point of view, and was something I was planning to do once the battery is knackered.

Could I ask what the additional advantages are? I (perhaps wrongly) assumed that an aluminium frame would be stronger and last longer?

You could tell them that you're rejecting the bike as not fit for purpose? May buck their ideas up a little?

Thats a little like saying a chain stretched to 3% isn't at the end of its life as it hasn't snapped yet...

You're correct, however is suggest that in reality the difference would be so small its not worth the effort, which is the approach I take. Except for the spare battery which can sit there for quite a few months before being used. There are lots of other factors which degrade batteries, not...

Quite! The manual which comes with the shimano battery says to store between 60% and 80% for extended periods (whatever that means in reality...). I tend to keep the spare at that level and the main one I just fully charge. With regards to where the info is coming from to only partially...

Yes, sorry, you're quite correct. I rushed the reply a little. What I meant was if you needed the bike quickly and wanted a full charge you can go by the screen turning off rather than the LED on the charger. The battery should be left for the full duration every few charges though as you say...

This, unfortunately. You do get used to how long it takes to charge after a while. Worth noting that the orange led stays on for about an hour after the bike is charged. The bike display turns off once done though, so can use that to tell.

In what way?

Would you mind explaining a little bit more about why that is? Genuine question BTW. Struggling to work out how that would affect the legs!

Unfortunately bikes are going to get paintwork damage. I don't go out to damage the paint, but I'm not precious about it when it does get scratches or chips. I see the bike as more of an offroader rather than a show car. My car on the other hand I'm very careful with. But I think thats because...

Crazy that the Emtb scene is so new this forum was only created in 2018! Not sure I would have got back into mountain biking otherwise, but so glad I have. My wallet less so... I look forward to seeing what it will be like in 10yrs time.