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Good point for that application actually. My road bike is a Ribble, they’re good people to deal with.

Thanks for reporting back Matt. I think quite a few people found Eurobike disappointing too. Perhaps a trend away from these type of events from the manufacturers? As a fan of big ugly welds it’s good to see Orange out in force. :) The Whyte Hoxton looks like a nice commuter bike option, along...

That Kinesis does look interesting. I’d like to see shorter stays on it but it’s nice to see that approach to a hardtail. It’s 18.5kg too. Will be interesting to see what you think. I think Orange have a hardtail ebike on the way too (like a p7/clockwork).

It’s interesting to see a purist attitude to Carbon-free bikes developing. See the release today of the limited edition YT Capra that’s all alu, Carbon free. It was a small factor in buying my bike too.

I love my E8000. The longevity worries me so it might be nice for them to make the 9000 higher quality and a touch less weight by using magnesium, composites etc

Flimsy evidence if you ask me. I was expecting another 6 months before we’d see evidence. Shimano E9000 Steps confirmed in Lezyne light specs Ride eMTB

Agreed. As a bike company you’d be mad not to do that. A fair proportion of the enthusiast MTB market are keen to understand more detail. If you’re a suspension provider it would be a great marketing/community building tool if the company releases the software and collected results...

Yawn. This thread isn’t about the Rotwild or your opinion of it or other alternatives. Perhaps start a new thread, it looks like a nice enough option but there’s lots of competition.

I think this could help people understand the characteristics of their bike, hence the database of known designs feature. This is already available to some extent if you search. However the value to the shock manufacturers is it would drive folks to a well informed purchase of their higher cost...

I’d love to see an automated community code for analysing these things. Ie. Analyse a side on photo of a bike. Identify pivots, ask the user if they are correct and produce a curve. I’d also like to see every curve produced published to a repository so we can all compare bikes. I can’t find the...

Also this. Suspension set-up guides and info - EMTB Forums Many are not single pivot and even when they are it depends on the location of the pivot.

You have much bigger worries than gear choices if you’re aiming at mid-range with what you’ve shown.

Completely agree. It speaks volumes they’ve used Mahle for the Creo (and not shouted about who supplies the motor). I can see them differentiating the Turbo brand more using software, leaving them free to choose the underlying power unit. There’s still many ways for this market to develop. It’s...

Oh, absolutely not. The market is moving from the early adopters to early majority so this explosion is to be expected. The question is: how much of it is ‘me too’ and how much real innovation (eg. Kervelo etc) There’s more potential for a big manufacturer to do what Specialized did with Brose...

Everyone’s expectations always get built up too much in anticipation. They can’t possibly satisfy everyone’s hopes.

They’re doing a remarkable job of reducing leaks of details if you ask me. Like those that hang on every Apple iPhone event I guarantee a many folks will be disappointed (spec, design, price, availability etc).

I do. If there are walkers then obviously I give them the usual amount of respect.

Looking at the video can be seen in the background.

Doesn’t seem to be. I guess still a prototype. Given it seems to be based on the Clockwork then they’ll need to wait for the frame from overseas as their hard tails aren’t made in UK.

Singletrack has some more details on the new Orange bikes announced at Eurobike to accompany the Surge launched this year. Eurobike 2020: Meet the all-new Orange e-Bikes family!