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You mean like the pound since we voluntarily jumped off a metaphorical economic cliff?

For the moment the industry is just innovating on packaging and trade offs within that. That’s ok for now as everyone does that when building their own bike anyway. It’s nice to not have every bike now making the same trade offs. I do find the weight claim hard to believe though. Especially as...

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I hope you’re ok mate And echo the other advice about seeking help if things escalate. A huge proportion of the population is predicted to get it and the majority will see it pass like a cold/flu. Many more on this forum will get it. I’m on the govt ‘shield’ list now (one of the 1.5M that are)...

18.4kg vs 19.2kg (both tubes and no pedals, L) as I understand it.

By seriously the context I mean is in pure investment of cash. Shimano aren’t currently striking me as ambitious in this regard given the potential size of the pedelec market. Particularly in warmer climes.

Do we really know how seriously Shimano take this side of the business though? We’ll get an indication when they release the EP-8 maybe. They still haven’t addressed the road/gravel (and now “SL”?) market either (EP-9?).

The Aryon, from a future of transportation/technology perspective not EMTB, might have helped secure that investment. You could imagine the elevator pitch. Like tech companies, Forestal talk is big and the delivery none existent at the start. Typically it’s the US not Europe sees this kind of...

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Agreed. All I’m saying is, let’s see if the walk matches the talk. I’ve already said it sounds too good to be true.

Just watched the video. They have some serious backing for this judging by what the ‘factory’ tour and chat with Cedric reveal. The current situation worldwide really won’t help get this off the ground though. Also their marketing material had two other models listed.

@EMTBehave I agree with what you’re saying. Particularly reliability of a display/device that gets hosed down all the time/covered in mud/used in anything other than Catalonian sunshine (equally for Specialized that’s California or more Southern Europe!). They do have form though as Production...

yeah, fair point ?

Damnit man, not rising to the bait ?. I’m sure they’ve done their testing throughly as you say. You might know this, is there a slight weight advantage in a single pivot? I suspect not but who knows.

No comment on the single pivot? (Albeit with linkage). You disappoint me @Gary ?

Hats off to them for the vision and the ambition to deliver. They could have just had the motor and a low weight and that would have been a headline grabber alone. It’s possible the current situation slows development in the EMTB industry this year as testing time will get impacted however...

The Forestal Siryon eMTB has 4G LTE, Nitro and weighs just 17.4kg There’s some interface and control details in this article in addition to the promise of OTA updates to the bike.

Ah Bafang do the motor. This is clearly an ‘exclusive’ package for Forestal but will be interesting to see if they will team up with other bike companies. Currently for smaller manufacturers Shimano seem to be the go to. As for the whole bike, it really shakes things up if what they claim is...

The guards on the Levos that @73Steff has built for MB Cyclery look very effective: 2020 Specialized Levo SL alloy custom build thread - EMTB Forums Also this: Which bashguard for my Turbo Levo - comparison / thoughts on Rockguards & Amygos Protection. - EMTB Forums

Second example on this explanation piece. How your bike's suspension design affects its performance on the trail | ENDURO Mountainbike Magazine