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TLDR: Any M20 owners, would you have taken an alloy bike if it was available at the time? After spending a lot time deciding on the rise over a full fat ebike (thanks for everyone who helped me decide on this great forum) I now have the same issue with the M20 vs H15. Obviously I'd like to pay...

I'm only 5ft5/165cm and I test/sat on a medium and it was the right size. Almost identical to my current 2006 kona hardtail in dimensions in a small. A small would definately be too small for me. My comment probably doesn't help!

Ordered the h15 and having second thoughts. 25 years of "lighter is better" in my mind. Wondering if I should cancel for the m20...

It is DEFINATELY not the same range extender for the alloy as the carbon, it has a different connector. I have seen many articles on this.

Ebikeshop in Surrey has the h30 in stock. I saw it today.

I measured the geometry and sizing of my current bike and compared it to the rise. A medium looked right. I went to a dealer today and sat on a medium and it was right on. So I ordered an h15 in blue and grey!

Yes. I went today! Found my size. Medium.

I went to the excellent e-bikeshop.co.uk I'm Farnham Surrey and saw many models of a carbon rise. Decided to go for the medium H15 in grey and blue. It is "supposed" to come in around 4 weeks. Fingers crossed.

This is correct. Your contract is with the shop, not Cube.

Firstly I agree with you. Secondly, I have not heard anyone else say "stack it" apart from me in 25 years. It makes me laugh whenever I say it. I'm guessing you're a Brit aged 35-45? Lol! Edit: No you're an Aussie? I didn't realise you guys had the cool lingo too!

Wow that Orange looks way better in your picture than the official product pictures. I thought the orange looked awful in the official pics but it's really nice. I still like the grey and blue best though.

I'm only 5ft5 / 165cm and I'm a bit worried about sizing. On the half dozen mountain bikes I have ever had I've always been a small/16"/40cm. However on the Rise it appears I would be a medium, which seems weird to me. Are there any riders my height who have tried the rise? Thanks.

Flipping back to Orbea now btw, lol

Ah you must be tall. The cube in my small size is only a 625 but with our weights it's probably about the same. I guess if I get the cube I can spend the extra money on upgrades!

Do you mean that the rise feels more natural because its lighter?

You make a good point which makes me think I should go cube. Apart from the weight which is much less important on an ebike there are no advantage to the orbea, as if you want the "less powerful more natural ride" just turn the cube down to eco or trail. But if you want the massive torque, on...

Actually I think the h15 has deore M6100 4 pots. The h30 has 2 pots. Not sure about the carbon ones.

Thanks. I think I've discounted the m20. It's not much lighter and when you factor in that the h has a larger battery which accounts for 900g of the difference the carbon frame itself is only worth 1kg, which is too little for the cost imo. The cube has xt 4 pots and the h15 has deore, so...

So looking at pros and cons: Cube Stereo Hybrid 140 SL 27.5 inch wheels: - Cheapest at £4599 (I take a small so it is £200 pounds cheaper than stock with a 620wh instead of 750 and 27.5" wheels) - Good display with phone satnav connection - Good specs but slightly worse/heavier forks. No stock...

I have already paid a deposit on a Cube which is transferable. the shop has an H15 in stock, but it is in the Orange colour i don't like. I would like the Blue and Grey one which they insist is coming in Feb - I have seen this date in multiple shops so assuming that Orbea is dropping a lot of...