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Thanks for the message and comparison. It has been a super hard choice, but I am going to stick with the H15 because even though I think the carbon one looks better and will be a little lighter, I am really worried about regret, as I can only ever afford to get a bike like this once, and I...

Hi, In anticipation for my new (planned) Rise I am looking at Mudguards. I don't want anything massive, but want to protext face and rear shock etc from splatter in lovely UK mud. does anyone have any recommendations that work nicely with the Rise? Thanks.

Looking at that second pic wondering how a van can be so badass.

Orbea were advertising the 21700 as a feature rather than a compromise though. If they felt it was a compromise, why mention it at all? It's all over their marketing material. Also yes the rise carbon must have been in development since way before pandemic so they wouldn't have known about...

Hehe. No your input is very interesting. It sounds like the slimmer downtubeand larger cells leads to a configuration that produces less amps. I had read that those with the wrong firmware said that the power felt nowhere near 85nm as max. I am excited to ride it with 60nm, it sounds ideal...

That sounds logical but I'm getting confused now. This link says that 21700 have more capacity and a higher max current 21700 Batteries, Are They Better Than 18650 Batteries?

You seem to be quite expert in battery technology. Both the 360 and 540 batteries are 21700 right? The Orbea marketing BS claims that their ebike batteries retain more capacity over more charges than the competiton. 80% at 500 charges if I recall. No idea what that is about. Do you have any...

Awesome comment, thanks.

Thanks will read/translate :)

Garmin edge 530. I don't even have the bike for another month at least.

Yes the 540w is definately 2.7kg. I'm not totally convinced by their range predictions. Those 1.5x a normal battery estimate is based on more rider input needed because of less assistance. The battery is not literally more efficient, just they say it lasts 1.5x as long as the motor gives less. I...

Good for you! I am 90% sure on the H15 for me. Now just the wait.

Ah maybe I misunderstood what I was reading. I don't recall where it was, but I read there was a reason for why they had made the two range extenders not compatible with one another, as they charged in different ways, and also discharged at different rates, perhaps due to the cell configuration...

More pictures of the van please! :)

Yes 1.4kg, Would have been easier if i had just written that instead of an essay, hehe.

I hear you! What tyres will you go for? the ones on the stock bike are already very light for 29ers without being made of paper. the rekon on the back is apparently pretty poor. I was planning on moving the dissector to the back, and putting a DHR II on the front for a good combo of weight and grip.

Ok. been obsessively thinking and analysing this and think I've come to a decision: The H15. The more capable fork and shock account for 450 grams of weight but I expect will result in a noticeably better descending experience. Indeed many people might want to upgrade to the Fox 36 and Float X...

Thanks for awesome post. Heart says m20, head says h15. Knowing what I'm like, I will probably go carbon.

Thanks a lot for the comment. I think you are probably right - I did think that if I get the h15 I will love it, and probably won't think "I wish I'd spent £400 (or £850 with the range extender) more, for a lighter bike I wouldn't feel the difference on" but if I want to do epic rides with a lot...