YT Decoy thread part 2

Nasty Nick

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Just for your info Carbon is 2-5 (depending on layup) times stiffer compared to Alyy and Steel ;) This based on Engineering measurements of course not Jedi sensitivity.:cool:

Test it yourself, you will see you can flex it. Or just go into boost mode in a steep incline and change gears.

Just look at the chainstays they are stiff in up/down motion but not designed to handle high lateral loads. We are talking about 70nm + my power.

You really think I am making this up as an owner of a decoy? Why would I? ;) it just feels funny thats all... nothing to be concerned about.

What the hell are you talking about? Who rides like that? Are you really shifting under that kind of load? I just did my normal flex test by doing a push/pull on the seat tube and rear wheel. The wheel has a little flex but the frame is very solid.
 
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Sorinok

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My ebeast just arrived yestarday!
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Lee Dove

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Test it yourself, you will see you can flex it. Or just go into boost mode in a steep incline and change gears.

Just look at the chainstays they are stiff in up/down motion but not designed to handle high lateral loads. We are talking about 70nm + my power.

You really think I am making this up as an owner of a decoy? Why would I? ;) it just feels funny thats all... nothing to be concerned about.

Boost Mode on steep incline and change gear ... no thanks I have more care for my drive train than that. Let me know when you break a chain and how long your chains last . That is just poor riding.
 

Jedipip

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OK, If you say so.

Just for your info Carbon is 2-5 (depending on layup) times stiffer compared to Alyy and Steel ;) This based on Engineering measurements of course not Jedi sensitivity.:cool:

Just be careful with all that Jedi voodoo shit OK! ?
 

Jedipip

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Boost Mode on steep incline and change gear ... no thanks I have more care for my drive train than that. Let me know when you break a chain and how long your chains last . That is just poor riding.

Boost, uphill AND changing gears..... we have ourselves a drivetrain guinea pig! Let us know if you get 1000 miles out of the oily bits, I’m approaching 500 and it’s still shifting beautifully.
 

Wadders

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Boost, uphill AND changing gears..... we have ourselves a drivetrain guinea pig! Let us know if you get 1000 miles out of the oily bits, I’m approaching 500 and it’s still shifting beautifully.
Changing gear under load ? my girlfriend does that. Lol
 

Marc

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you guys.. telling me you never change gears uphill? You care about your chains? Really? And if I don't thats poor riding? a chain is nothing else than a wear and tear part as far as I am concerned, so is the chainring and the cassette. Especially on an ebike (3times more wear).

You never been to the Swiss Alps... ride there and tell me again you wont change gears uphill :sneaky:

Of course I am not changing gears under full load. I am saying the forces are quite high under load on an ebike and no wonder the carbon chainstays can flex sideways. I am not that blunt and feel the flex and jolt even on flats while shifting. But as said it annoys ME... if you don't feel it or give a sh** about it so be it, great!
 
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Lee Dove

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you guys.. telling me you never change gears uphill? You care about your chains? Really? And if I don't thats poor riding? a chain is nothing else than a wear and tear part as far as I am concerned, so is the chainring and the cassette. Especially on an ebike (3times more wear).

You never been to the Swiss Alps... ride there and tell me again you wont change gears uphill :sneaky:

Of course I am not changing gears under full load. I am saying the forces are quite high under load on an ebike and no wonder the carbon chainstays can flex sideways. I am not that blunt and feel the flex and jolt even on flats while shifting. But as said it annoys ME... if you don't feel it or give a sh** about it so be it, great!
You claimed that you changed gear at 70nm of torque so that would be Full Load ? I bet you are just feeling the chain trying to take a crap ?
 

Marc

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No man, I told you I feel flex in the chainstays. You told me my bike is broken if so. I told you to test it yourself by pulling on the chainstays with your legs OR shifting uphill. Never said thats my usual gear changing habit ;)

But whatever... god do I love my decoy?! It changed my riding forever. No more excuses. I can and I do go on a ride whenever I find bit of time. And I still find it a good workout. Love it.
 

06z

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Now if YT could only make enough of these Decoys to fill all the orders they're getting. Has any of you YT Decoy owners ridden a Norco Slight vlt? I would like to hear a comparison of the 2.
 

mitch1808

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Now if YT could only make enough of these Decoys to fill all the orders they're getting. Has any of you YT Decoy owners ridden a Norco Slight vlt? I would like to hear a comparison of the 2.
Norco has really good reviews but for that money is not worth it especially looking at the components.
 
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Rob Rides EMTB

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By the way, where was the test ride location? I send a PM to Rob, but he didn't answer cause he hates French people. (just kidding)
I'm pretty sure it's close from where I live!
Soz was in France when you asked (still am!). Internet in France seems slow ?
It was in Gorges de Loup - beautiful.

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33red

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Now if YT could only make enough of these Decoys to fill all the orders they're getting. Has any of you YT Decoy owners ridden a Norco Slight vlt? I would like to hear a comparison of the 2.
I do not know de YT but i demoed the Norco 1 hr on a small + 1 hour on a medium. I realy enjoyed it but i agree about the price being high.
 

Sorinok

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Yes it's new fork, but it was 500 euro ??... Lyrik DebonAir, model 2019....I think it was a problem with the price, it was just 1 day.
I like RS fork, they are verry easy to service, i like Decoy Base for the back AL swingarm and i like the red color ?....
A friend just ordered Decoy BASE fryday, and today just arieved track shipping....YT is ON.
 

Doomanic

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Did you ask for an upgrade? I wonder if I ask for different components on the pro race if it will come sooner?
I asked at the Demo day at FoD; what you see on the site is what you get, no substitutions.
 

Highway

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hmm I got error code w011 a couple of times on the last rides and that indicates speed sensor but there is not much to adjust there,, anyone else had this?
 

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