Trance X E+ Pro 2021

[gbarfoot]

There have been reports of the Flip chip linkage binding on the non E Trance X 29 (see facebook group Giant Trance Owners (GTO)) Would seem the tolerances are very tight and sensitive to over torqueing

I think it's less about torque spec and more to the spacer they use, it's short and likely allows enogh flex for the rocker and swing arm to rub. Mine had some marks after 1 ride. I installed some 14x10x1mm washers in the with spacer and it gave a good amount of clearance. Btw motorcycle banjo bolt crush washers are the perfect size to use as a shim. Buddy will be lathing me some slightly longer spacers for a permanent fix. I think 14x10x3.5-3.75 (vs 14x10x3) would be a good fit

 

[Yetibos]

Copy that. Sounds like I have similar preference to you, though I love level 5 adrenaline rides too!

Level 3 works really good on my 2019 trance also, providing good fun and a nice workout. Gaining speed is like chasing a carrot. Lol.

Thanks for the information.

for me it depends more on how fast you want to go uphill. With level 3 you can go very fast without so much effort ... with level 1-2 you will need more time to climb. It depends on how long you want to ride.

 

[aja07]

I think it's less about torque spec and more to the spacer they use, it's short and likely allows enogh flex for the rocker and swing arm to rub. Mine had some marks after 1 ride. I installed some 14x10x1mm washers in the with spacer and it gave a good amount of clearance. Btw motorcycle banjo bolt crush washers are the perfect size to use as a shim. Buddy will be lathing me some slightly longer spacers for a permanent fix. I think 14x10x3.5-3.75 (vs 14x10x3) would be a good fit

Are you running the flip chip on H or L. Have you tried both and if so what is your preference and why, thanks

 

[gbarfoot]

Are you running the flip chip on H or L. Have you tried both and if so what is your preference and why, thanks

I like the low have 2 rides on it and notice more front end confidence on downhill switchbacks, climbing might suffer some with a more wandery front, but I definitely like it downhill better

 

[gbarfoot]

Great ride today could've done 40 mi. Mostly ridden on 1&2 modes. Rode with a cannondale moterra with the Bosch and it drained the battery much faster and went into limp mode 10 miles from the end, luckily it was mostly downhill. I finished with still 1 LED and I'm guessing 5-10% battery left. Totally impressed with the yamaha giant motors efficiency.

 

[enCrypt]

Anyone got any updates (or maybe insider knowledge ) when the Trance X E+ Pro range will be available in the UK?
They're not on the Giant UK website yet and my LBS just keep saying they're supposed to find out "next week" which has been the same answer for the last 3 weeks!

The new models have just appeared on the Giant UK website tonight...

 

[aja07]

How are ppl finding the new Giant Romero saddle that comes on the new Trance, any good?

 

[Giantal]

The new models have just appeared on the Giant UK website tonight...

I noticed that, does that mean they will be in the shops soon?

I noticed the price hike too, nearly £500!

 

[enCrypt]

I noticed that, does that mean they will be in the shops soon?

I noticed the price hike too, nearly £500!

Yeah so did I, I'm now thinking of going for the 2021 Stance E+1 Pro instead because of this, which is a shame but probably still a great bike...

 

[Mcfanner]

I noticed that, does that mean they will be in the shops soon?

I noticed the price hike too, nearly £500!

I emailed my closet Giant dealer and they said they had not heard anything yet

 

[enCrypt]

The new models have just appeared on the Giant UK website tonight...

And they appear to have been taken off again!
Lets hope it was because the prices were too high

 

[DrStupid]

 

[hexagon]

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Awesome! Congrats! Can you give us a review sometime? Some video on the bike?

 

[gipsy]

Hi all, new Trance 1 owner here.
Was looking for front light connector and found another one(red).
White is JST female connector, 6V, max 1,5A switched on ergo control over light switch.
Red one is unknown for me, it is again JST female, but 36V, switched over main switch.

Another thing, as linkage looked preaty unprotected from rear wheel spray, I made simple bumper, long enough to cover it and it works perfect...I tested it on wet trail and linkage was clean after that.

 

[DrStupid]

Awesome! Congrats! Can you give us a review sometime? Some video on the bike?

I'm full of it, but I will certainly be offering my opinions soon.

Motor is smoother, quieter, better power at higher cadences compared to my 2019 trance.

So far I love the 12 speed xtr/xt/slx/kmc drivetrain.

So far only ridden in the yard.

 

[Mcfanner]

Was thinking about getting one but my lbs said they would be april at the earliest for them ?

 

[Yetibos]

Awesome! Congrats! Can you give us a review sometime? Some video on the bike?

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for me the biggest difference is 29 "wheels. I'm 1.80 meters, and was ridding 2019 trance e + 1 on M size, now my new trance X e + 1 is L size ... I feel much more comfortable on the bike, more stability, easier to ride, safer and more grip on my wheels. The ride position is safer also on steep sections. I love it. The only cons: longer bike, even longer than my Glory ... this new trance does not fit in my small van I must remove the front wheel each time ... ?. Of course this longer bike is harder for tight corners ... but at the end is totally worth it.

I'm full of it, but I will certainly be offering my opinions soon.

Motor is smoother, quieter, better power at higher cadences compared to my 2019 trance.

So far I love the 12 speed xtr/xt/slx/kmc drivetrain.

So far only ridden in the yard.

Agree, I'm looking to get 1cm extra travel in the fork, the setting is not ready yet is difficult to set up suspension for so heavy bikes.

 

[Chris Lifty]

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for me the biggest difference is 29 "wheels. I'm 1.80 meters, and was ridding 2019 trance e + 1 on M size, now my new trance X e + 1 is L size ... I feel much more comfortable on the bike, more stability, easier to ride, safer and more grip on my wheels. The ride position is safer also on steep sections. I love it. The only cons: longer bike, even longer than my Glory ... this new trance does not fit in my small van I must remove the front wheel each time ... ?. Of course this longer bike is harder for tight corners ... but at the end is totally worth it.

Agree, I'm looking to get 1cm extra travel in the fork, the setting is not ready yet is difficult to set up suspension for so heavy bikes.

Have you used the flipchip yet? Maybe its easyer to ride the tight turns in the "high" position?
April still so far away for mine to arrive ?

 

[enCrypt]

Went to my local Giant dealer yesterday, they confirmed they've got some on the way but earliest delivery will be March 2021! Went to local Trek dealer and ordered a Rail 5 instead, which I can get mid December apparently, as he'd thought ahead and pre-ordered a load, woohoo ?

 

[DrStupid]

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for me the biggest difference is 29 "wheels. I'm 1.80 meters, and was ridding 2019 trance e + 1 on M size, now my new trance X e + 1 is L size ... I feel much more comfortable on the bike, more stability, easier to ride, safer and more grip on my wheels. The ride position is safer also on steep sections. I love it. The only cons: longer bike, even longer than my Glory ... this new trance does not fit in my small van I must remove the front wheel each time ... ?. Of course this longer bike is harder for tight corners ... but at the end is totally worth it.

Agree, I'm looking to get 1cm extra travel in the fork, the setting is not ready yet is difficult to set up suspension for so heavy bikes.

My riding is pretty tame, so suspension setup for me is usually easy. I like the first half of the travel to have very little damping and the bike feels about right to me.

The shock had alot of air in the negative chamber and needed to be balanced. After balancing it feels super slick, as the fork does too.

I had to compromise with the cockpit layout as the RC1 unit doesn't seem to play well with the XT brake master, when trying to get the dropper where I like it. In the end I had to rotate the RC1 forward more than I like.

This pic taken from opposite side to show the interference between the master and the RC1. I'd like to rotate the RC1 down but can't becuase of the master cylinder hinge.

I too ride a medium Trance, but opted for a large Transexy. The dropper on the Transexy slides down all the way, so in the end, the lowest seat height is about equal between the medium Trance and the Large Transexy.

I had a RaceFace super short stem and installed it straight away. This gets me a bike that has a similar seated riding position to that of the medium Trance with a tall bar. All in all, I think I made the right choice going up to a large, but time will tell.

For now it's raining, and my Trance is the mud bike. It will have to dry out before I can seriously work the Transexy.

The new seat on the X is a big improvement for me, and I see no need to swap it out as I did with the 19 Trance.

The shifting of this shimano 12 speed continues to amaze me, though as stated earlier, I've only been riding it around the yard.

The gearing range is ridiculously more than I need for my trails. I rarely peddle above the speed limit (20 MPH) because my trails would be too dangerous for me above those speeds. I will be ordering the 10-45 cassette and a 34T chain ring along with the SG (medium cage) derailleur.

 

[DrStupid]

Ok, well it didn't dry out enough but I rode it anyway. The trails are drowning, but in leaves. The leaves are better then mud.

I rode with the chip in high mode.

The X was comfortable at speed (keep in mind, speed to me is anything over 12 mph) but the front end was a little vague compared to the Trance. You give up some grip with that comfortable tall front end I guess. I'll be dropping the bars no doubt to see what happens.

The new motor is a nice improvement when spinning the cranks fast, but its not like a nitro button when compared to the 19 motor.

Oddly enough the bike might be even harder to manual than the 19, but somehow feels more playful on the trail. Perhaps, once I lower the bars chasing grip, it will calm down a bit.

With the sag at 30%, I was bottoming the forks with the open mode adjuster opened all the way. I started screwing the open mode adjuster in, and ended up at 10 clicks from closed, but this is still ealry days. I may need a volume spacer.

The rear suspension feels excatly like the 19. I dont think you can find a bad setting for the maestro to be honest. It just shrugs off hits and gobbles up whatever comes its way.

All in all I am one happy hillbilly.

 

[Yetibos]

My riding is pretty tame, so suspension setup for me is usually easy. I like the first half of the travel to have very little damping and the bike feels about right to me.

The shock had alot of air in the negative chamber and needed to be balanced. After balancing it feels super slick, as the fork does too.

I had to compromise with the cockpit layout as the RC1 unit doesn't seem to play well with the XT brake master, when trying to get the dropper where I like it. In the end I had to rotate the RC1 forward more than I like.

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This pic taken from opposite side to show the interference between the master and the RC1. I'd like to rotate the RC1 down but can't becuase of the master cylinder hinge.


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I too ride a medium Trance, but opted for a large Transexy. The dropper on the Transexy slides down all the way, so in the end, the lowest seat height is about equal between the medium Trance and the Large Transexy.

I had a RaceFace super short stem and installed it straight away. This gets me a bike that has a similar seated riding position to that of the medium Trance with a tall bar. All in all, I think I made the right choice going up to a large, but time will tell.

For now it's raining, and my Trance is the mud bike. It will have to dry out before I can seriously work the Transexy.

The new seat on the X is a big improvement for me, and I see no need to swap it out as I did with the 19 Trance.

The shifting of this shimano 12 speed continues to amaze me, though as stated earlier, I've only been riding it around the yard.

The gearing range is ridiculously more than I need for my trails. I rarely peddle above the speed limit (20 MPH) because my trails would be too dangerous for me above those speeds. I will be ordering the 10-45 cassette and a 34T chain ring along with the SG (medium cage) derailleur.

yes, is tricky to get the good position for all the rig on that side

 

[aja07]

Mine turned up in the shop yesterday, will pick it up today. Had a quick sit on and first impression is, wow that seat tube is quite steep. Going to be an adjustment getting used to that.

 

[aja07]

yes, is tricky to get the good position for all the rig on that side

Not a fan of the Giant dropper lever. Might replace it with Shimano dropper lever (or WolfTooth) that attaches/integrates with the brake lever clamp. One less clamp.

 

[DrStupid]

Not a fan of the Giant dropper lever. Might replace it with Shimano dropper lever (or WolfTooth) that attaches/integrates with the brake lever clamp. One less clamp.

I guess it's what your used too. I haven't tried many different styles of droppers or levers for them, but I've learned to like the gaint dropper from lever to post.

 

[DrStupid]

The left side is tidy I think, but oddly enough considering the new name (Gaint Ride Control Ergo), lacks some eh... ergo.

 

[aja07]

Was referring to this dropper lever SL-MT800-IL which attaches direct to the Brake clamp so eliminates one of the clamps. Helps keep things a bit tidier.

 

[DrStupid]

Not a fan of the Giant dropper lever. Might replace it with Shimano dropper lever (or WolfTooth) that attaches/integrates with the brake lever clamp. One less clamp.

Copy that. Please keep us posted if it all fits nice!

 

[mussogabriel]

Got mine today. Only tuned suspension and other items. Will test it soon. The giant app of course does not work. New app should be in soon I believe.

 

[Pdoz]

Was referring to this dropper lever SL-MT800-IL which attaches direct to the Brake clamp so eliminates one of the clamps. Helps keep things a bit tidier.

Are you sure that is compatible with the giant dropper? Giant have a grub screw at the lever whilst most brands work the opposite way .

One up components work the same way as giant so their levers are a suitable upgrade ( and can gave brackets to fit your brakes) Small Parts