STUnlocker Android App for Shimano motors is available

[Peaky Rider]

I apologise if this question has been asked before, if it has I missed it, but will Vadll be working his magic on the new EP8 motor? If not, I will be sticking with my old E8000 motors whilst ever they work.

 

[raine]

I just read this whole thread, it appears you clearly wanna be the one with the last laugh
You go to a restaurant, pay for a glass of wine, after you only take a few sips, you drop it down and break it.
The barman only sell the wine not the glass, i hope he gets you a new glass full of wine for free?
To me it's just customer caring.

I "clearly wanna be the one with the last laugh?" Who are you? You don't know me lol
I will say this though - at least you read the whole thread. If other people did that there would be fewer repeat posts of the same 2 questions that have been answered over and over and over.

BTW Your wine analogy makes no sense... what are you talking about "customer caring"?

 

[raine]

I apologise if this question has been asked before, if it has I missed it, but will Vadll be working his magic on the new EP8 motor? If not, I will be sticking with my old E8000 motors whilst ever they work.

Not sure if that can be done... the EP8 (and maybe future E8000 firmware) is whole new ballgame.
From Rob's video, he said:

[Shimano] also talk a bit about anti-tuning and anti-tampering. Any attempts to alter or trick the cut-off speed will be stored in the motor. The dealers will see this flag in their software. If this happens, the warranty will be void and they cannot service the motor.​

Also if you didn't notice, even with the E8000 system, the new E-Tube 4.0 software requires the user to select region + register motor to Shimano.

 

[Peaky Rider]

"Also if you didn't notice, even with the E8000 system, the new E-Tube 4.0 software requires the user to select region + register motor to Shimano."

No, I didn't notice but now I have both my bikes working sweetly I go nowhere near E-Tube.

The future is looking pretty shit, Covid looks like being with us for years and then no doubt something else will come along and now we look like being stuck with 15 mph on your e-mtb here in Europe. (it's okay for you over in the States).

Thank goodness I'm 70 and looking at joining the local bridge club instead.

 

[urastus]

Not sure if that can be done... the EP8 (and maybe future E8000 firmware) is whole new ballgame.
From Rob's video, he said:

[Shimano] also talk a bit about anti-tuning and anti-tampering. Any attempts to alter or trick the cut-off speed will be stored in the motor. The dealers will see this flag in their software. If this happens, the warranty will be void and they cannot service the motor.​

Also if you didn't notice, even with the E8000 system, the new E-Tube 4.0 software requires the user to select region + register motor to Shimano.

Glad I didn't update

 

[EDYM]

I "clearly wanna be the one with the last laugh?" Who are you? You don't know me lol
I will say this though - at least you read the whole thread. If other people did that there would be fewer repeat posts of the same 2 questions that have been answered over and over and over.

BTW Your wine analogy makes no sense... what are you talking about "customer caring"?

I certainly don't know you, what i said was my impression after reading this whole thread.
That's it.

I'm Eric by the way, cheers. ??

 

[raine]

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[jimbob]

The app keeps stalling when trying to connect to the bike at 24%, and tben says the connection was interupted. I've tried it after playing with the phones bluetooth to make sure there isnt anything else connected at the same time which may be interfering.

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[raine]

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The app keeps stalling when trying to connect to the bike at 24%, and tben says the connection was interupted. I've tried it after playing with the phones bluetooth to make sure there isnt anything else connected at the same time which may be interfering.

Anyone have any ideas?

Did you change your PIN on the bike from default? If so you have to enter it in STUnlocker settings first, before trying to connect

 

[jimbob]

Did you change your PIN on the bike from default? If so you have to enter it in STUnlocker settings first, before trying to connect
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Sorry, I should have clarified. I've been using the app regularly, its just this week it's stopped working. Not made any changes to the bike or app between it working and not.

 

[jimbob]

In case anyone else has the same problem, I managed to sort it by unpairing all bluetooth from the phone.

 

[raine]

OMG i not read exactly ... i just wanted updated today to 4.8.0... and not checked new firmware 4.9.0 since yesterday ... cannot change anything now ... stunlocker needs update ... PLEASE vadll HELP ... many thanks

What do you mean "needs' update? You made the mistake (accidental or not) of updating FW, not vadll's fault.
Anyway - at this point, you're just going to have to wait if ST Unlocker gets updated, or manually downgrade your FW.
Did you try using the E-Tube app to see if you can connect?

Yesterday at 11:28 PM
Yesterday Shimano releases new updates for E8000/E7000/E6100. It looks like something was changed related to derestriction.
Well, as usual: don't update FW until you are sure that it is compatible with the features you need.

 

[urastus]

Also if you didn't notice, even with the E8000 system, the new E-Tube 4.0 software requires the user to select region + register motor to Shimano.

The etube software pre update, also made it look as though you had to go online and check for updates. I didn't, of course, and I was still able to connect and do all I wanted. I think the average user would have just followed instruction thinking they had no choice.

When you say "requires", is this a similar thing? Are you able to just bypass this and continue on with whatever you want, and not register the motor? That degree of attempted control by shimano is the sort of thing that I really don't like. Android (g00gle), ms, apple, FB - they all try it.

 

[raine]

The etube software pre update, also made it look as though you had to go online and check for updates. I didn't, of course, and I was still able to connect and do all I wanted. I think the average user would have just followed instruction thinking they had no choice.

When you say "requires", is this a similar thing? Are you able to just bypass this and continue on with whatever you want, and not register the motor? That degree of attempted control by shimano is the sort of thing that I really don't like. Android (g00gle), ms, apple, FB - they all try it.

If I remember right, there's no way to continue through the app without registering. You may not like it, but it is what it is.
Even the previous E-Tube didn't require you to check for updates. Like you said, it might have "made it look as though you had to" but you really didn't if you just paid attention to the interface. With 4.0 there's an auto firmware check/download that pops up when you start the app... but there's also a "skip" option at the bottom if you just pay attention (I think whoever above who had their eMTB install yesterday's FW update wasn't paying attention)

 

[vadII]

All my contact details are known. If you need help - just email to me...

Yes it was my mistake ... not vadll's fault
I wanted 4.8.0 and didn't notice that there is a completely new firmware 4.9.0.
E-Tube still works, STUNLOCKER IOS app works also but no changes (wheel circumference, market) are saved.

how can i downgrade to 4.8.0 ?

 

[vadII]

The new beta version of STUnlocker for EP8 support is available. Testers wanted (PM to me and send your email address of Google account)

 

[vadII]

Finally. Requires first initial FW (4.0.2), it's possible to downgrade from the latest 4.1.1

 

[vadII]

The new version 1.10.77 was released with EP8 support.

 

[Pepemurcia]

El miedo de esta app es que afecte a la garantía del motor

"The fear of this app is that it affects the engine warranty"

 

[vadII]

El miedo de esta app es que afecte a la garantía del motor

Is it your question? Or is this your statement of a knowledgeable person who was denied a guarantee because the bike was derestricted?

 

[raine]

El miedo de esta app es que afecte a la garantía del motor

"The fear of this app is that it affects the engine warranty"

If that's the case, then it's simple: don't use the app.

 

[Pepemurcia]

Solo pregunto si puede uno tener problemas con la garantía?

 

[Pepemurcia]

[QUOTE = "vadII, publicación: 234459, miembro: 2926"]
¿Es tu pregunta? ¿O es esta su declaración de una persona bien informada a la que se le negó una garantía porque la bicicleta fue anulada?
[/CITAR].Es una pregunta. Por cierto ya la tengo descargada y esta muy biem, enhorabuena

 

[vadII]

Solo pregunto si puede uno tener problemas con la garantía?

No, if revert back all "derestriction" settings when sending your bike to dealers shop

 

[vadII]

New App's features for EP8 owners.
EP8 collects some statistics and the App displays them. Moreover, EP8 has "regulation log", so all changes of Market/Circumferences are stored...

added: I thought the system does it automatically, and I couldn't check it as I didn't get my EP8 yet, but those "smart" guys from Shimano made an extra command to add an entry to the log. So, if you change the region in STUnlocker, no entries are added to the log.

 

[Peaky Rider]

New App's features for EP8 owners.
EP8 collects some statistics and the App displays them. Moreover, EP8 has "regulation log", so all changes of Market/Circumferences are stored...
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That's disappointing, looks like I'll be sticking with my E8000s for a while now

 

[revord]

New App's features for EP8 owners.
EP8 collects some statistics and the App displays them. Moreover, EP8 has "regulation log", so all changes of Market/Circumferences are stored...
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Does that mean the Market Circumference can't be changed? Or is the information just logged ?

 

[vadII]

Does that mean the Market Circumference can't be changed?

No. Ep8 can be derestricted via STUnlocker

 

[vadII]

Riding characteristics chart (just for fun)

 

[jsalas2]

Just purchased a second e8000 bike. Do I need to a separate license for it. The app will sync to my first bike, but not the second. Original pin that I use will not work for the second,. I will gladly pay for another license, love this app. Thank you.