So, I messed up

[ButterSausage]

Happy holidays good people

Tried to replace the computer on my Giant Stance e2+ this Christmas and messed up. I ate to much and had a couple of cold ones, but this is no excuse for my foolishness.
The cable disconnected and is now inside the frame. The cable was bent in a very strange way from the factory, and is very hard to handle.

Is there a way to fix this without having to fish it out of the hole in the frame?

 

[irie]

If you can see it then to get it out I'd guess it's a question of patience, ingenuity, patience, no alcohol, and patience.

 

[Zimmerframe]

If you can see it then to get it out I'd guess it's a question of patience, ingenuity, patience, no alcohol, and patience.

I agree with 80% of your suggestions

Is there a way to fix this without having to fish it out of the hole in the frame?

Skinny little pointy things ... maybe ..

Or something like a modified drinks straw might slide in and fish it out/ slide over the end and let you manoeuvre it back out through the port.

 

[irie]

Skinny little pointy things ... maybe ..

Or something like a modified drinks straw might slide in and fish it out/ slide over the end and let you manoeuvre it back out through the port.

Was thinking about tweezers from Mrs overstocked girly kit.

 

[ButterSausage]

Haha, thanks for the tips.
Definetely no more beer.

Gonna give it another go. Tried different kinds of tweezers, but the cable is bent 180°, making it very hard to get out of the tighthole.
Afraid I will damage the cable.

I am sorry to say, but patience is one of my heavy burdens in this life

What if I remove this? (in advance: sorry for asking very n00b questions)

 

[RustyMTB]

If it were me, I'd remove the battery latch mechanism. That will give access to the cables running above it & will only be held in by the hex bolts on the right & the key barrel on the left

 

[sethimus]

you need really tiny asian hands to put cables in on giant bikes

 

[Stihldog]

Skinny little pointy things ... maybe ..

These come in handy sometimes. (Leave the dentist chair though …it won’t help).


Be careful

 

[ButterSausage]

Will check on the battery latch solution.

I have very big hands making it very hard to navigate small thing.
Apparently I have a very small brain

Those torture looking tweezers looks like a must have

 

[RustyMTB]

Alright Hannibal Lecter, let's keep it on topic. Topic? Top pick?

 

[Stihldog]

Alright Hannibal Lecter, let's keep it on topic. Topic? Top pick?

HEY! Some of us can have more than one hobby.

 

[ButterSausage]

If it were me, I'd remove the battery latch mechanism. That will give access to the cables running above it & will only be held in by the hex bolts on the right & the key barrel on the left

You mean the entire black "box"?

 

[ButterSausage]

I have a lot of tweezers for building models, but none with the locking mechanism. Guess they sell these at the local pharmacy

 

[RustyMTB]

You mean the entire black "box"?

Undo the two bolts circled in red, then my gues is the entire unit can be removed by wiggling it to the right as arrowed.

 

[Stihldog]

I have a lot of tweezers for building models, but none with the locking mechanism. Guess they sell these at the local pharmacy

Can’t remember where, or when I got these …but when you need a third hand they can help . Stainless steel also.

No need for sterilizing.

 

[ButterSausage]

Undo the two bolts circled in red, then my gues is the entire unit can be removed by wiggling it to the right as arrowed.

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Had to remove three black bolts and the two screws on the key lock. Got access to the cable compartment now. Thanks a lot

 

[steve_sordy]

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Those torture looking tweezers looks like a must have

They are called "artery forceps". And yes, surgeons use them to clamp off blood vessels (and other tubes) during surgery. Google the term and you will find loads of different types. I have two, one is a straight set that is about 6" long. I've had it for about 60 years, using them to get hooks from fish's mouths. The other I bought more recently from a local market. It is about a foot long and is curved, really useful for retrieving small items that have dropped into narrow spaces, and for retrieving around corners.

As a suggestion for your original problem: is it possible to loop some wire, or thread, around the misplaced item and pull it out that way. Or lasso it and tighten the noose and pull it out?

 

[Mikerb]

you need to pull the cable down in the downtube until the end of the cable is visible. Then use thin nose pliers to grab the cable end and pull gently whilst feeding the cable back up in the downtube.

 

[ButterSausage]

Thanks.

It's quite hard to get hold on the cable, but will give it a try again today.
The frame for the battery lock needs to be removed for better access, but is held in place by two screws (which also is adjustment).

Don't think I have the right tool for unscrewing this little buggers

 

[Mikerb]

Thanks.

It's quite hard to get hold on the cable, but will give it a try again today.
The frame for the battery lock needs to be removed for better access, but is held in place by two screws (which also is adjustment).

Don't think I have the right tool for unscrewing this little buggers

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Torx...probably T20 or T25

 

[Stihldog]

Thanks.

It's quite hard to get hold on the cable, but will give it a try again today.
The frame for the battery lock needs to be removed for better access, but is held in place by two screws (which also is adjustment).

Don't think I have the right tool for unscrewing this little buggers

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Looks like Torque Security T20-T25. You likely need to purchase a small set just to get (1) the right size. I got my set from Canadian Tire, but any tool store should have them.
I also had to get the Torques Plus (5point) for the Bosch CX motor mount bolts. My tool collection is starting to grow again .

Some of these specialized tools have one function and one use, then sit in the drawer for about a year. Park Tool and Amazon is my friend .

 

[motmcd]

Mechanic’s grabber!

 

[irie]

Park Tool and Amazon is my friend .

I suspect that it's the other way round - that you are Park Tool and Amazon's $€£friend, I certainly am

 

[RustyIron]

Looks like Torque Security T20-T25.

Some of these specialized tools have one function and one use, then sit in the drawer

Yeah, they're Torx security screws, which are bloody stupid in this application. Butter, if you can grab the outside diameter with a pliers, loosen the screws and replace them with stainless screws with a normal head. Another option is to take that little tool that you thought was a screwdriver but is really a chisel. Knock out the pin in the middle, converting the fastener from "security" to "unsecure." The diameter of the pin is really small, so it should snap off easily. Don't use one of your good screwdriver/chisels. Use one that you don't care about.

 

[Stihldog]

I suspect that it's the other way round - that you are Park Tool and Amazon's $€£friend, I certainly am

I’ve had success from “SHOP” also.
I had ordered a few things from the LBS (support local) but they couldn’t give me a delivery date, which usually means 6-9 months. Two castle nuts and an “O” ring from SHOP we delivered to my door that week …when I needed them. I’ve found other bikes things on SHOP also.

 

[Arminius]

Could that help?

View attachment 41279

Looks like a t25 safety. Giant has a part number for the tool.

And a manual is mentioned / linked here:

As per the limiter speed limiter thread I owned a Trance Pro for 6 months in which time the dealer was so utterly useless I had them send me the service manual so I could fix the bike for myself. Handy for torque settings etc and shows how to turn off the low speed limiter etc if thats your thing.
All at your own risk obviously

 

[ButterSausage]

Thanks for good info.
Searched all day in my tool shed, and I found one torx with a hole in the middle amongst hundreds of normal ones.

Only to discover that the plugs don't match

 

[Arminius]

I went thru the connector ordeal when connecting a Garmin device and a Lupine headlight to my Bosch system.

Ihave no Giant ebike but maybe this is the next to help?

Y-Connector | Giant Bicycles Norge

www.giant-bicycles.com

• Connecting A (RideControl Go) to B (RideControl Ergo, RideControl Ergo 2 or RideControl Dash)
• Connecting A (RideControl Go) to B (RideControl Ergo or RideControl Ergo 2) to C (RideDash Evo)