I sort of think the opposite with higher end mtbs these days. (in comparison to designs of a decade or so further back).
Out of interest. Which ones do you consider crappy?
Santa Cruz Ebike
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Out of interest. Which ones do you consider crappy?
Well I got no interest in stirring the pot but personally not fan of the rocker bar style 4 bars like on the big T and a few others. Personally like the feel of more rearward and upward tracking rear vs a more vertical wheel travel. Also a more linear feel ("plush"
) since so many on this "progressive" kick
OMG! sorry dude but you seriously have absolutely no idea what you're talking about... With the utmost respect I suggest you go back to sticking your fingers back in your eyes and blinkers on your ears.personally not fan of the rocker bar style 4 bars like on the big T and a few others. Personally like the feel of more rearward and upward tracking rear vs a more vertical wheel travel. Also a more linear feel ("plush"
May I suggest a spoon?
Don’t like the Shimano E8000?
What would you rather have?
Brose ? Smooth but so many returned motors.
Bosch CX ? I really didn’t take to it.
My favorite motor is the Rocky Mountain Power Play, but the price point wasn’t where I wanted and the only dealer in Phoenix (5th largest city in the US) was a 2.5 hour round trip.
The E8000 is a sensible, functional, tho boring choice. I can imagine the Santa Cruz design team debating it, two years ago.
The battery, while unsuitable for “Epic” long rides suits my my numb-butt-at-14-miles (extending to 22-miles) routine.
27.5 vs 29er ? I’ve owned only 29ers over the last ten years, but every time I hop on a 27.5er, plus or otherwise, I have a lot of fun.
E9000 ? I overheard a conversation with a Shimano Rep who said the EP8/9000 wouldn’t be available until October 2020, for the 2021 model year. Hopefully it will be 48V and swappable (with better bearings).
In the end it is a well-sorted Santa Cruz product with lifetime warranty.
Spendy? Yes. I’d be looking for a discount.
I also heard that a lower cost version is planned for next year.
What would you rather have?
Brose ? Smooth but so many returned motors.
Bosch CX ? I really didn’t take to it.
My favorite motor is the Rocky Mountain Power Play, but the price point wasn’t where I wanted and the only dealer in Phoenix (5th largest city in the US) was a 2.5 hour round trip.
The E8000 is a sensible, functional, tho boring choice. I can imagine the Santa Cruz design team debating it, two years ago.
The battery, while unsuitable for “Epic” long rides suits my my numb-butt-at-14-miles (extending to 22-miles) routine.
27.5 vs 29er ? I’ve owned only 29ers over the last ten years, but every time I hop on a 27.5er, plus or otherwise, I have a lot of fun.
E9000 ? I overheard a conversation with a Shimano Rep who said the EP8/9000 wouldn’t be available until October 2020, for the 2021 model year. Hopefully it will be 48V and swappable (with better bearings).
In the end it is a well-sorted Santa Cruz product with lifetime warranty.
Spendy? Yes. I’d be looking for a discount.
I also heard that a lower cost version is planned for next year.
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OMG! sorry dude but you seriously have absolutely no idea what you're talking about... With the utmost respect I suggest you go back to sticking your fingers back in your eyes and blinkers on your ears.
Coming from a Brit I shouldn't be too insulted, just your average rebuttal, eh? Once upon a time I had a couple room mates from the UK...that was well, mostly the same
no you may not lol
Meh, I don't like VPPs much.
I dont get why everyone gets so bogged down in motors, price and spec - at the end of the day its a combination of all these factors and all that really matters is how the bike rides - now I am slightly unusual in that I will choose a bike for how it rides over how it looks every time, I bet this thing rips, sure it isn't bringing anything new to the party, but just looking at the weight placement, suspension design, and geo tells me that it would be a lot of fun to ride. Unfortunately there are other bikes out there at lower prices that do the same.
I still haven't ridden a bike that would get me to trade in my £3.8k Vitus E-Sommett, the only one I have that cam close was the Whyte 150 RS, because they have nailed getting the weight low down and centred around the BB, meaning its easy to pop up and move around compared to the majority of EMTB's, but not in any meaningful way over the Vitus. Plus battery that's a pita to remove ruled it out.
Anyway expecting Peaslake to be awash with them by the end of the month!
I still haven't ridden a bike that would get me to trade in my £3.8k Vitus E-Sommett, the only one I have that cam close was the Whyte 150 RS, because they have nailed getting the weight low down and centred around the BB, meaning its easy to pop up and move around compared to the majority of EMTB's, but not in any meaningful way over the Vitus. Plus battery that's a pita to remove ruled it out.
Anyway expecting Peaslake to be awash with them by the end of the month!
You answered your own question with your question ..
We're all sad internet connected morons searching for perfection. On average EMTBers spend 10* the time on-line searching for the next statistically better option to make things better than actually riding to make things better ...
For me . I enjoy that. I fall off my chair far less than I fall off the bike.
sebbyr
Member
$13K us for the top model, wow. For that coin you could get 2 Rockymountain powerplays.
or 4 E-sommets
S'pose that depends how you value your trim really, eh?
all those parts might retail at way higher prices but none genuinely offer any actual improvement in performance. to what's on my ol' Vitus. Which BTW is actually lighter than the Heckler too.
I'm sticking with 4
S'pose that depends how you value your trim really, eh?
I'm sticking with 4
Curse you, and your unsolicited Cost-Benefit Analysis !!
The Flying Dutchman
E*POWAH Master
Looks like a fun bike! Short chainstays, 27.5, balanced geo and reasonably light too! Now if they could just sort out the price tag...
I was laughing at the comments on PinkBike's and Santa Cruz's Instagram this morning. Seems SC has reignited the Ebike hate/debate.
I was laughing at the comments on PinkBike's and Santa Cruz's Instagram this morning. Seems SC has reignited the Ebike hate/debate.
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Rusty
E*POWAH BOSS
I guess every forum needs a super douchebag like garyOMG! sorry dude but you seriously have absolutely no idea what you're talking about... With the utmost respect I suggest you go back to sticking your fingers back in your eyes and blinkers on your ears.
May I suggest a spoon?
So, anyone buying the Santa Cruz?
And it's one of the best looking ebike right now, also waiting for wild fs m team myo custom. Only one problem - it will arrive on March/April
Just before the SL came out, it looked like Santa had their finger on the pulse and were going to make the SL look old hat a day after spesh released it ..
As @magnil said .. they actually seemed to do the opposite. Yes .. they made the new Spesh bike which everyone complained about the price - look quite reasonable !
Visually, it's not hugely inspiring. Where everyones's tried to slim down around the motor, they've managed to make it look like a distended constipated python with what looks like it should be a giant storage compartment for your huge wads of spare cash. Primarily, It looks like they've done this to replicate the Bronson frame shape, but possibly also to make the downtube appear slimmer/smaller in comparison.
It just doesn't really bring anything new to the party which isn't already there and for less money.
I'm sure it's a great bike and will ride nicely, but it's not visually or passionately exciting in anyway.
I currently have SC Blur XC + Tallboy + 5010 + Hightower....so I'm tempted.
06z
Active member
With the price of the Heckler and Levo SL, What are these manufacturers smoking? It seems like they don't want to sell many of these. Absolutely STUPID prices.
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