SoCal Scrub
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Really sorry to hear
Sorry to
Let us know what happens, hopefully they get you fixed up and riding again.
SANTA CRUZ BULLIT OWNERS !
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cgm55082
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Wow. Did you try a medium, or just went straight to the large?
scooby82r
Member
Straight to large, lots of work with Geo numbers and the large is closer to my ideal Geo than medium.
First ride out I was quicker than my previous bike and the bike felt unreal in all scenarios. It's not that big.
Weird, just took delivery of a medium and feels huge to me (174cm). I'm coming off a medium 27.5er though so the slacker headtube and longer reach coupled with the big front wheel is a huge change. Not sure it's for me yet, I wanted more travel for the gnarlier trails here but I miss the precision-feeling of the smaller 27.5er.
cgm55082
Member
This is good feedback. I'm the same height as you and have been nervous that the medium might be too small for me. I'm curious what bike you were riding and what its reach was? I wonder if the transition to the Bullit's more modern geo is what you're feeling.
Canyon Spectral but a good few years old, not sure exactly what year it was but looking online I think it may have been around 430 reach / 67-68 head tube angle. I did swap out the bars and stem on it but don't remember why. Also have a Chameleon set up as 27.5 but I wouldn't really want to compare a hardtail to an enduro. Haven't ridden it in a while so wouldn't place any blame there.
I test rode a Heckler (non-MX) last year and loved it, but zero availability for high spec Hecklers, the bigger battery, and the glowing reviews pulled me into getting the Bullit. Thick downtube, more aggressive geo, big front wheel, plus the extra weight of an e-bike is just a lot of changes to adapt to in one go.
cgm55082
Member
My guess is you'll adapt to the different feel of the Bullit very quickly and soon won't want to ride anything else.
Agree with that, my Bronson has sat redundant since i got the Bullit & i said i wasn’t going to let the ebike take over ? there just too much fun
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+1 in to the wild, switched today after 4 years on two Levo’s I have taken the plunge, although I am keeping my 2019 Levo expert for my wife.
First ride tomorrow in the FOD
First ride tomorrow in the FOD
Agree with that, my Bronson has sat redundant since i got the Bullit & i said i wasn’t going to let the ebike take over ? there just too much fun
I 'adapted' to the geo alright, but on a Nomad! Managed to test ride one nearby and now building a frame up super light for multi-day enduro rides.The EMTB for me is definitely the Heckler - shorter range, lower weight and smaller frame for short, quick rides on weekdays (plus I'm still in love with 27.5 front and rear). Great for recovery, great for fast skills development and great fun. For the weekend rides I do I just can't carry a 22kg E-enduro over fast flowing burns and up the unrideable rocky sections in the mountains up here. The Bullit is undoubtedly a sick bike and probably the best complete enduro frame/motor/battery package out right now, if only I could justify having three bikes...
Pedals looks amazing with the Lav! Looking forward to hearing your first ride impressions ?
Such a cool pic ??????SANTA CRUZ BULLIT OWNERS !
I got about three weeks on mine. I made a sudden decision to get one and found one on Evo.com. They only had the R, which I got thinking I'd swap parts to some nicer. I didn't want to wait. I was super bummed when I realized the R comes with the E7000 motor, not the EP8. I didn't read the fine...www.emtbforums.com
I know I wanted these pedals for ages but I needed a bike that could pull them off
Such a cool pic ????????
I’m 186cm and 83kg with gibbon arms and a disproportionately long back (?).
Test rode the XL and bought an XL.
It’s perfect for me.
I can get ‘row’ and ‘anti-row’ right back and forward perfectly (Row/Anti-Row: beyond light hands/heavy feet – Lee Likes Bikes). It’s fine up and down ‘the steeps‘ and fine on singletrack too.
A weapon!
I changed from a Levo XL which always seemed a bit odd to me, kinda short (?) especially going steep down when making a mistake and I get none of that now. A much better bike and with the motor dialled down, I’m getting good battery duration (not as quite good as Levo, but the battery is smaller and tyres way more sticky, so just as expected and battery on order for big rides later in the year).
Test rode the XL and bought an XL.
It’s perfect for me.
I can get ‘row’ and ‘anti-row’ right back and forward perfectly (Row/Anti-Row: beyond light hands/heavy feet – Lee Likes Bikes). It’s fine up and down ‘the steeps‘ and fine on singletrack too.
A weapon!
I changed from a Levo XL which always seemed a bit odd to me, kinda short (?) especially going steep down when making a mistake and I get none of that now. A much better bike and with the motor dialled down, I’m getting good battery duration (not as quite good as Levo, but the battery is smaller and tyres way more sticky, so just as expected and battery on order for big rides later in the year).
808Rider
New Member
What's the update on the motor? Did Evo or SC help you out? All covered under warranty I'd assume. Would like to hear what's up
SC sent me a new 8000 (upgraded) motor. It took a few weeks with the current delays, but all good. Just hooked it up and did settings with ST Unlocker. Great service at SC.
I notice the power difference to the 7000 for sure. I had to turn down Boost a bit.
Enduro, What was wrong with just calling mtb’ing mtb’ing! No more nomenclature. Please.
Well I offloaded the heckler and got a bullit at 6’1 w a large is just as good but no more spindly front end w the 38. Much better bike. Oh and the purple helps. Dope color way here in Colorado as in the high country the wildflower displays emulate this color way and you just blend in!
And you only swapped the motor or you had to change the control and wires?
AccousticBiker
New Member
just got off my first ride on the bullit. is there anyway we can raise the bottom bracket of this bike ? I had too many motor strikes on the goto tech trail. at one point felt deceleration and got worried if I was gonna OTB.
edit : my sag is 25% on the fork and 25% on the shock
The good
very poppy suspension, feels lively on the trail
easy to handle, handles the berms nicely.
jumps well, the landing were way smoother than my other enduro bike
boost mode is unreal, almost no effort while climbing, my typical climb takes 90 minutes with rest in 100% boost mode I did it in 38 minutes.
the bad
the motor is too low causing strikes
Suspension is too poppy and makes the bike bounce around a lot on the rough sections (might have to play with the rebound)
battery percentage is deceptive. garmin showed 62% battery left after 1500ft of climb and the shimano display showed 4/5 bars.
edit : my sag is 25% on the fork and 25% on the shock
The good
very poppy suspension, feels lively on the trail
easy to handle, handles the berms nicely.
jumps well, the landing were way smoother than my other enduro bike
boost mode is unreal, almost no effort while climbing, my typical climb takes 90 minutes with rest in 100% boost mode I did it in 38 minutes.
the bad
the motor is too low causing strikes
Suspension is too poppy and makes the bike bounce around a lot on the rough sections (might have to play with the rebound)
battery percentage is deceptive. garmin showed 62% battery left after 1500ft of climb and the shimano display showed 4/5 bars.
Interesting comment… I don’t find this in my Bullit.
However, when I first rode eebs (T-Levo), I found the same as you (bottom bracket and and crank strikes). I read in this forum and others that I wasn’t alone.
Then it stopped happening.
I discovered that the heavier eebs need a different riding style. For example, I discovered that there was a temptation (to be avoided) to sit down and peddle more than was my habit on my normally aspirated.
Fixing this is helped by sorting the shock and you’ve done that. But there’s more to it.
I can’t articulate what changed, sorry. Others will be able to.
But you’ll find it’ll stop. In the meantime, what about ordering a ‘RockGuardz’ guard for that area? They are custom formed strong carbon fibre and do the job. It does involve using a Velcro strap, but given your concern, like me you’ll probably think that’s a small price for security. Category: Bullit
Same experience for me. lots of peddle strikes in 2017 when I got my fist Levo but now I hardly ever get them or any issues with clearance on the Bullet, you do adapt your ridding style and tend then the issues go away, give it time.
AccousticBiker
New Member
IMO
pedal strike = user error.
motor strike = bike manufacturers defect.
pedal strike = user error.
motor strike = bike manufacturers defect.
Yeah maybe they could just relocate the motor to sit under the rails of the seat?
AccousticBiker
New Member
Rocky mountain and Norco seem to understand this problem better and have aligned their motor to be higher than the chainring.
Also giant (2021 and older) bikes probably have a giant issue at hand (lol)
Also giant (2021 and older) bikes probably have a giant issue at hand (lol)
AccousticBiker
New Member
any coil bullit owners here ? I need a quick lookup can you PM me ?
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