Reign E+ 2022

[zorro77]

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Open the Fork too much honey for me

 

[Endorium]

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www.emtbforums.com

How is that any help?! I clearly state I have searches and found some vague comments but nothing that helps anyone who has no knowledge of ebikes. I came here thinking it was a friendly helpful forum. Clearly not

 

[Buckaroony]

How is that any help?! I clearly state I have searches and found some vague comments but nothing that helps anyone who has no knowledge of ebikes. I came here thinking it was a friendly helpful forum. Clearly not

Search for 3M tape, there’s a whole load of posts about how to apply to the battery storage compartment to improve the seal. I followed the tips and now mine is pretty much bone dry, even after hosing the bike down to wash it.

 

[Buckle]

Search for 3M tape, there’s a whole load of posts about how to apply to the battery storage compartment to improve the seal. I followed the tips and now mine is pretty much bone dry, even after hosing the bike down to wash it.

I know of a rider on Vancouver Island who has ridden through the wettest fall on record and has had exactly zero issues with water ingress. The bike is ridden hard on the knarliest trails in an addictive fashion and hasn’t missed a beat. Just decide, buy and ride!!!!

 

[jasperofpuppets]

How is that any help?! I clearly state I have searches and found some vague comments but nothing that helps anyone who has no knowledge of ebikes. I came here thinking it was a friendly helpful forum. Clearly not

LOL

Perhaps I missed another post of yours somewhere, but I didn't see anything where you clearly stated that you had already used the search feature and found the results to be non satisfactory. All I saw was your reply to the other person saying "that's not helpful."

Anyways, the general idea I get from reading posts here n' there about water ingress is to do your best to avoid getting water onto/into the ride control unit. Hopefully Giant has improved upon this with the new, smaller mode switch on the new Reign and Trance E-bikes.

 

[mrandrewau]

Read something about water ingress on the reigns. Similar to tsu on specialized? Can someone explain it and how best to avoid it?

I'm not sure what is tsu on specialized. For the 2022 Giant Reign E+, it's just water ingress in the battery compartment, which IMO shouldn't actually affect the battery's ability to perform. Nonetheless, people are cautious about it and have done a very minor mod to seal it up, which is definitely worth if it you ride in the wet. The mod is done by placing 3m tapes along the edges of the battery compartment as shown in the following post:

Reign E+ 2022

So I’ve had my E+0 since the 15th November and still not had time to ride. You just have to love the Christmas rush 🤦‍♂️

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Water ingress in the motor was a more serious issue in older Giant bikes that has long been fixed.

 

[jasperofpuppets]

For the 2022 Giant Reign E+, it's just water ingress in the battery compartment, which IMO shouldn't actually affect the battery's ability to perform.

Yeah. I'm no electrical engineer, but I feel like that area is not as susceptible to water failure as the ride control unit.

In fact, Giant's website has a how-to video where a guy hoses down the battery compartment and the battery itself. I do this with my bike from time to time as well.

How to wash your e-bike | Giant Bicycles Official site

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www.giant-bicycles.com

 

[urastus]

"10 years on the Motor*
* We extend the manufactures motor warranty to 10 Years or 10,000 miles, whichever comes first, due to normal wear and tear inevitabilities. Does not include hub drive motors.

* Does not include water damage, abuse, extreme impacts, any type of custom modification or speed control hack. Does not include wire harnesses, parts replacements due to normal wear and tear or service labor.

* Warranty void should manufacture discontinue, stop production or no longer manufacture motor, parts or supplies needed to replace or repair motor."


That motor warranty seems too leaky to name it a warranty. It seems like there is a way to void the warranty that covers most situations. The value of that warranty for giant is if people only read the headlines, not the detail. I'd rather have a 2 year warranty that is real.

 

[jasperofpuppets]

That motor warranty seems too leaky to name it a warranty. It seems like there is a way to void the warranty that covers most situations. The value of that warranty for giant is if people only read the headlines, not the detail. I'd rather have a 2 year warranty that is real.

Cool

In all seriousness, my LBS has been pretty good with taking care of any issues that have presented themselves with my '19 Trance E. I sincerely believe that their warranty policy is not a bait n' switch sort of a deal.

 

[mrandrewau]

If a warranty doesn't cover parts or labor, then I wonder what they cover actually.

 

[jasperofpuppets]

If a warranty doesn't cover parts or labor, then I wonder what they cover actually.

I had wondered about the service labor part, but my shop hasn't charged me for any warranty repairs or parts. And I had a broken Maestro linkage that they replaced in less than two weeks.

 

[trailaddict]

Every issue I had,, regardless of electronics, motor or parts was handled under warranty at no charge by my lbs. Outstanding service, thats why my 3rd Giant is on its way

 

[Ruemtbs]

I was finding the 38s to be a bit harsh and after reading a few comments on here decided to check how many tokens are installed. And yep there was three. Riding at windhill bike a park tomorrow so going to drop to 1 token, hopefully that solves the problem.

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I also have removed 3 of the tokens and it still felt harsh. So I borrowed a ShockWiz from a friend. To calibrate the ShockWiz you have to let all of the air out of your fork and then pull it up to full travel. When I tried this it wouldn’t pull up, like it was sucked down.
I took it into my lbs and they contacted the Fox service agent in NZ. Initially they said there wasn’t a problem and I hadn’t set the shock up properly.
When we persisted then they told the service tech at the lbs to let all of the air out while using a block between the crown and steerer to hold it at full travel, then pump to up to usable travel and then hold the fork down to equalise it. This seemed to work but after one run it was sucking back into its travel again and when I emptied the air out it it pulled the fork down tight again.
Now they have said that there is obviously too much grease in the negative chamber and it’s not allowing the fork to equalise properly.
They are going to service it under warranty.
It maybe worth checking if your fork is doing the same thing. Empty all the air out and if you can’t pull the fork up to full travel there is a problem.

 

[Tim gosnold]

I also have removed 3 of the tokens and it still felt harsh. So I borrowed a ShockWiz from a friend. To calibrate the ShockWiz you have to let all of the air out of your fork and then pull it up to full travel. When I tried this it wouldn’t pull up, like it was sucked down.
I took it into my lbs and they contacted the Fox service agent in NZ. Initially they said there wasn’t a problem and I hadn’t set the shock up properly.
When we persisted then they told the service tech at the lbs to let all of the air out while using a block between the crown and steerer to hold it at full travel, then pump to up to usable travel and then hold the fork down to equalise it. This seemed to work but after one run it was sucking back into its travel again and when I emptied the air out it it pulled the fork down tight again.
Now they have said that there is obviously too much grease in the negative chamber and it’s not allowing the fork to equalise properly.
They are going to service it under warranty.
It maybe worth checking if your fork is doing the same thing. Empty all the air out and if you can’t pull the fork up to full travel there is a problem.

Thanks buddy I’ll give that a go. This is one of the most helpful forums I’ve been on. Not much dick slinging goes on here and I think if someone is offended just remember comments or advice can sometimes come across the wrong way when written in text rather than when spoken. Thanks everyone

 

[jasperofpuppets]

Now they have said that there is obviously too much grease in the negative chamber and it’s not allowing the fork to equalise properly.
They are going to service it under warranty.
It maybe worth checking if your fork is doing the same thing. Empty all the air out and if you can’t pull the fork up to full travel there is a problem.

Don't Fox 38s have a bleed valve on the lowers? I thought the whole point of them was to equalize pressure. Or maybe the grease quantity is in such excess that it is physically incapable of doing so?

 

[trailaddict]

The valves at the castjng are not connected to the internal air chamber. They are only usefull to equalize pressure inside the casting easily.

 

[Tim gosnold]

To all the suspension geeks out there a bit of advice. I have a transition patrol with a trunk on mount coil which is 205mm x 60mm. The giant reign is 205mm x 62.5 mm. Would the coil from my patrol fit on my giant? Thanks for any help.

 

[Dale_Calgary]

Was checking the wheelbase of my bike to compare to my Amish bike and just noticed the price just went up E+1 $300 $8199 -> $8499 CDN. Anyone else notice it on your countries website from what you paid?

Did Rob's review increase the price! ;p

 

[Implor]

You can mount the dropper lever between the ridecontrol and brake lever for better reach and thumb contact. No need to keep the default placement.

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I got it to work. Had to loosen the break clamp to get it into place. Thanks!

 

[Implor]

Was checking the wheelbase of my bike to compare to my Amish bike and just noticed the price just went up E+1 $300 $8199 -> $8499 CDN. Anyone else notice it on your countries website from what you paid?

Did Rob's review increase the price! ;p

It was 75000 sek in Sweden. In December it was increased to 78300 sek. I paid 65k+5k of store stuff. So they do have wiggle room.

 

[trailaddict]

To all the suspension geeks out there a bit of advice. I have a transition patrol with a trunk on mount coil which is 205mm x 60mm. The giant reign is 205mm x 62.5 mm. Would the coil from my patrol fit on my giant? Thanks for any help.

For sure it will fit. But you will limit the travel to ~154mm

 

[Tim gosnold]

For sure it will fit. But you will limit the travel to ~154mm

Thanks for that buddy. Hopefully I can cope with a few mm less

 

[jasperofpuppets]

To all the suspension geeks out there a bit of advice. I have a transition patrol with a trunk on mount coil which is 205mm x 60mm. The giant reign is 205mm x 62.5 mm. Would the coil from my patrol fit on my giant? Thanks for any help.

For sure it will fit. But you will limit the travel to ~154mm

Indeed. But if it's a RockShox, there's just a plastic spacer below the bottom out bumper that you can remove. It is probably a 5mm spacer or two 2.5mm spacers. If it's a 5mm spacer and you remove it, you may be able to run 65mm stroke, which would increase travel ~6mm. That's what I'm running on my non-E Reign and will be doing with the Reign E+ once I get it, assuming there's enough clearance in the frame during full bottom out.

My understanding is that the 60, 62.5, and 65mm RockShox shocks are all the same thing, just with travel reduced via external spacers. I could be wrong, but I think Fox is the same way, but with internal spacers.

Hopefully I can cope with a few mm less

That's not what she said

 

[Tim gosnold]

Indeed. But if it's a RockShox, there's just a plastic spacer below the bottom out bumper that you can remove. It is probably a 5mm spacer or two 2.5mm spacers. If it's a 5mm spacer and you remove it, you may be able to run 65mm stroke, which would increase travel ~6mm. That's what I'm running on my non-E Reign and will be doing with the Reign E+ once I get it, assuming there's enough clearance in the frame during full bottom out.

My understanding is that the 60, 62.5, and 65mm RockShox shocks are all the same thing, just with travel reduced via external spacers. I could be wrong, but I think Fox is the same way, but with internal spacers.



That's not what she said

 

[Tim gosnold]

Indeed. But if it's a RockShox, there's just a plastic spacer below the bottom out bumper that you can remove. It is probably a 5mm spacer or two 2.5mm spacers. If it's a 5mm spacer and you remove it, you may be able to run 65mm stroke, which would increase travel ~6mm. That's what I'm running on my non-E Reign and will be doing with the Reign E+ once I get it, assuming there's enough clearance in the frame during full bottom out.

My understanding is that the 60, 62.5, and 65mm RockShox shocks are all the same thing, just with travel reduced via external spacers. I could be wrong, but I think Fox is the same way, but with internal spacers.



That's not what she said

@jasperofpuppets I’m running a ohlins ttx22m on my other bike so not sure about the spacer I’ll have to take a look. The only thing I’m thinking is I’ll need to run a firmer spring due to the differences in weight. I’ll speak to the shock supplier tomorrow as they can tell you depending on bike and rider weight. Thanks for the advice.

 

[Tim gosnold]

@Rob Rides EMTB are you going to be doing any more videos at ebike races, the last one you did was a real old watch and something a bit different. Mini enduro are holding a race at bike park Wales in March and the ebike categories are determined by riders weight rather than by age

 

[Dominic1212]

Hey everyone.

Did my second ride today.

Reign E +1 625Wh All Stock

1.49h
Average speed was 15,6km/h
95% Mode 1, 5% Mode 2
28,43 km
715m altitude gain
33% battery consumption(71% >>> 38%)
1st battery charge
Temperature 6°C

Today's ride was with a buddy that has the previous Reign with the PW-X 2 with a 500Wh battery and has a speed box(unlimited speed) in it. So he did 27,8km basically the same as me and for most of the ride used mode 1 except for the last 20min he used 3 and 4 for a fast getting home(at 44km/h). He burned 48% of the battery. The extra battery consumption is due to the speed box, otherwise it would be about the same...as he says if he pedals the same up to 25km/h the consumption is no higher.

So if we do a little calculating...theoretically with a fully charged battery in mode 1 it would be possible to do a 86km and 2166m vertical tour ride with the new Reign. Possibly a bit more in warmer temperatures. I will do more similar tests in other modes if I don't return the bike.

Also did check, did a video on motor/frame resonance noise issue I already mentioned before in this forum. After tightening the battery and cover it didn't get any better.

After constant climbing for about a half an hour it did quiet down a little bit, as if when the motor got warmer it was better.
But then again after descending and cooling it down it came back again...
It present mostly in the upper part of the cassette when pedaling/motor working. When I stop pedaling/motor stops running it goes away.
Also I noticed that the noise dimms a bit for a moment when going over curbs etc...

It doesn't affect the motor performance in any way, as the motor is really quiet, this noise makes unbearable for the ears...

Does anyone have the same issue?

What do you think should I go to Giant LBS with it?

I tested the ANT+ sensors Cadence,Speed Power on my Garmin Fenix 6X. Worked beautifully.
Average input power across all the ride was 62W.
Max average input power(20min) was 118W.
Average cadence was 59 rotations/min
Max cadence was 137 rotations/min
Didn't really check the speed.

I could easily maintain 26km/h without motor assistance...there is basically very little internal drag.

Attaching a link to the video:


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Mine E+0 does the same sound when it decouples. If there is load on the pedals it went quiet . Also my Motor Motor became much more quiet after 500km regarding the wining noise. now it is very quiet. But this decoupling sound is a little bit annoying . Please keep us informed what your LBS says.

 

[emtbeast]

Mine E+0 does the same sound when it decouples. If there is load on the pedals it went quiet . Also my Motor Motor became much more quiet after 500km regarding the wining noise. now it is very quiet. But this decoupling sound is a little bit annoying . Please keep us informed what your LBS says.

Hey thanks for chiming in.
My motor has 55km so far(2rides).

Was your motor silent(no noise) under load from day one?

Mine has this noise when it is under load, but it stops when it decouples, so just the opposite of yours.

I can confirm though that I already did hear a significant positive difference in the second ride about the whining sound.

Will definitely keep you posted ✌

 

[emtbeast]

Only a curiosity, did you try automatic mod? Same sound?

Hey didn't do that. I will though try all modes before I go to the LBS. Will keep you posted .

 

[Chuggz]

It remember a previous post about rotors but can’t find it.
To the guy who was running magura rotors. How are they going with the shimano calipers?