Rail (750Wh) Rail Toolbag Thread

Juanroberts

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If you have a cool way to carry tools on your bike, I will appreciate it if you can please post a pic and write about your setup.

I recently bought the Gen 4 Rail 9.9.

Thanks!
 

KnollyBro

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If you have a cool way to carry tools on your bike, I will appreciate it if you can please post a pic and write about your setup.

I recently bought the Gen 4 Rail 9.9.

Thanks!
Congratulations on getting your new bike! Tool carrying/hydration is quite a personal choice and really depends on what you want to carry and how. Since you said "... on your bike" you might consider the following: OneUp EDC
I personally use a hip pack to carry my phone ,ID, CO2 "pump", bacon strips and a multi tool as I run tubeless tires as I don't like to wear a backpack and my rides are never longer than 3 hours. EVOC
I am sure others will chime in with lots of different ideas but without you providing some sort of details on what you plan to carry, how long you ride for and where you ride, you are going to get a lot of variety of ideas as most the the riders on this forum have not been to NorCal.
 

RustyIron

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OneUp EDC tool kit in the steering tube. The OneUp EDC Pump works good on some bikes. It doesn't fit well on the Pivot, so I use the Pivot Dock Ninja. It won't fit your Trek, but maybe it will give you some ideas.
 

Juanroberts

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Camelbak Skyline LR.
Interesting because I was thinking of the Camelback Frame Pack. It would likely only fit under the Down Tube so it would not be as secure as under the Top Tube inside of the Main Triangle. But it would have an inner tube and bike parts so not likely as heavy as being full of water, which is what it was designed for.


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Juanroberts

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Congratulations on getting your new bike! … what you plan to carry, how long you ride for and where you ride.
I emailed OneUp asking what to get and they recommended the EDC pump, V2 tool, and pliers. It cost me roughly $180. Once I get it I will let you know about the install and take pics. The kit just needs better automoblie-type tire plugs. At this point if I do not find a working bike bag, I will likely just wrap an inner tube around a frame tube and call it a day.

While coaching I carry my med kit in a fanny pack. I usually hydrate a water bottle worth before rides so rarely do I drink again from my caged water bottle (even on an acoustic bike). I tend to ride about 10-20 miles where flat, uphill and descents each are about a third of the ride.

By the way, my IPhone is set up on a Quadlock using a motorcycle mount secured on the Rail’s oval bars using their Roll Cage Hose Clamp and a thick ziptie. In the pic are also a Timber Bell and a light turned parallel to the bars. I run four such lights. I turn them sideways when not in use.

I do not like carrying things on me. I ride dirtbikes so couldn’t care less if the bike is heavy. But having it be self-contained and ready to go is cool.


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Juanroberts

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As recommended above, I bought the ONE’s EDC:

100cc air pump
V2 tool kit
Pliers and tire plugs

They all fit inside the bike pump which in turn fits on the bottle cage mounting area of the Trek Rail. I had to get bolts that where about 3mm longer. I also later taped the air pump handle to the airpump body so it would not separate while riding.

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Done the same with the smaller (70cc) EDC pump on my 2022 Trek Rail. Have other stuff in a very small bag held with Velcro on top of the cross bar next to the seat tube - IIRC it's a Bontrager Elite Seat Pack/Small.

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Juanroberts

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Done the same with the smaller (70cc) EDC pump on my 2022 Trek Rail. Have other stuff in a very small bag held with Velcro on top of the cross bar next to the seat tube - IIRC it's a Bontrager Elite Seat Pack/Small.
Hi irie, if I had to guess you have an aftermarket bottle cage or you drilled and riveted on the ONE air pump?

I noticed your avatar shows you used to carry a saddle bag but now its on top of your top tube and in front of you seatpost. Can you tell its lower center of gravity, and what other advantages did you notice?

And how are the mud guards working out?

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irie

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Hi irie, if I had to guess you have an aftermarket bottle cage or you drilled and riveted on the ONE air pump?

I noticed your avatar shows you used to carry a saddle bag but now its on top of your top tube and in front of you seatpost. Can you tell its lower center of gravity, and what other advantages did you notice?

And how are the mud guards working out?
1. Bottle cage is Specialized Zee II with holes drilled out to move cage higher in frame to prevent the Ohlins shock fouling on it.

2. Pump is attached with two small bolts to the top side of the drilled bottle cage to keep it away from my legs.

3. Yes, I do notice bag weight being carried to lower down - makes the bike feel more 'lively'.

4. That's my 'good weather' mudguard. Because it's now bad weather with plenty of mud have fitted "Large Mudhugger" rear mudguard - very ugly but practical. Changed Spring and Autumn.
 
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Juanroberts

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Hi irie,

because mud season is upon us in the northern hemisphere, would you mind posting pics of your wet setup as well? Did you have to do any adaptations to the rear large Mudhugger, and what do you use in front?

I noticed the Rail frame’s battery compartment cover has big open seams, presumably to let air in to cool the battery. And plenty of mud splashes into there. Which could block it in big enough quantities. So big dirtbike-type fenders do not scare me so long as they fit the Rail right and do not flop around too much.

Thank you.
 

Juanroberts

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1. Bottle cage is Specialized Zee II with holes drilled out
One more thing, I have not bought a cool bag like you so the first inner tube I rolled then put into the same area belted by the cuttings of another inner tube and the second inner tube I wrapped around the top tube and used a paper binder clip to keep from unwinding.

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irie

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Whatever works is good, function before fashion. Have the small Bontrager bag because saw it at less than half price from a shop that had obviously over-ordered.

You can do this if you're concerned about mud getting into the battery compartment:


But if the battery compartment is completely sealed then if anything does get in it won't be able to drain out.

Front mudguard is RRP large held on with zip ties. Rear large Mudhugger also held on with zip ties with layered tape to prevent paint damage. Both go on directly without any modification.

You might also want to do something like this to protect pivot bearings:

 
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BuckSaw

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I carry a OneUp EDC pump with a multitool on my downtube. I've got a the pump mount bolted to the bottle cage mounts. I also carry a tube and Pedros tire levers in a Backcountry Research strap on the top tube near the seat tube. I've given up on trying to fit a bottle in the Trek Rail front triangle so I wear a Camelbak hydration vest. I keep a Stan's Dart tool in the vest as well as some snacks and my Garmin Inreach Mini when I got out beyond cell phone range.
 

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