Your missing the point , I wanted it to integrate smoothly inside with the rear mudhugger as in the pics to stop the mud piling up on the rear pivot . On its own it would fit as yours has , but it did limit clearance a bit on muddy days
Rail rear mudguard
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Pan
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I understand, 2 different situations. I will go with front frx without the cut out. Will try to find a detachable extended seat tube gard for back protection ( like topeak xc 11) Anybody tried to attach these to base of seat post not to interfere with dropper ?
Yes they won’t work with a dropper , and it’s would be so high up it would make getting off the back the seat difficult . Plus they won’t take the rattling about on rough ground and too narrow Why not just use the proper rear mudhugger ? It’s about the only thing that works on a full suss rear end
MuddHugger on the front. MuckyNuttz on the rear (slightly modified). About an inch of fender was removed near the pivot in order to fit properly. I mainly wanted to protect the lower pivot. I still get a stripe up my back and Fanny pac but the dropper is mostly clean. I like the idea of rubber mastic for frame protection.
There is a guy who is 3D printing a small pivot protector in here too. Looks interesting.
There is a guy who is 3D printing a small pivot protector in here too. Looks interesting.
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And a whole packet of zip ties!! ?
neiloxford
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I did the same and unfortunately found the mud clogged up in the FRX after a few miles. I had to cut the zip ties off mid ride.
Shhh Losing the whale tail is akin to doing a rain dance , even planning such things can cause mud to appear where it never existed ?
Hi,
How are you satisfied with your mud guard combo? Why you didn't put Mucky nutz on the front? It looks like there is a quite small clearance.
Any disadvantages of rear mud guard? Tyre rubbing/hitting on guard or frame rubbing?
With autumn coming I'm trying to find best, hopefully permanent solution.
kr
Cut a flap from 1mm neoprene to protect the rear pivots and fix it with a cable tie just above the charging port (obviously). Been posted before but worth reposting ...
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The rear fender serves a number issues for me. I’ve continued to use the modified monkey nutz rear fender to prevent some mud on my back, debris on the dropper post and a keeping perfectly sized rock out of the pivot area. So far so good. Occasionally I get a rear tire buzz (6 times since install) but I just smack it with my hand and it stops.
I have removed the front fender though for looks.
I’ve installed this exact same setup on several other Rails and the riders like this kind of protection. Modifying the fender to fit properly is key. Protecting the frame is also important.
There are a number of different fenders/pivot protection, but this method works for us.
I personally like the look now which is why I removed the front fender and kept the rear fender only. Only once I took a rock to my face from the front wheel, but I wear riding glasses.
Oh! I remember why I removed the front fender. Snow would pack between the fender and tire and stop me at the worst time.
Thank you for quick reply.
Do you have any experience with MuddHugger?
For the front, which one would you recommend, short or long version?
I removed the MuddHugger (version long) from the front because the snow would pack in there so tight that the wheel would stop. Other than that, it was a good fitting fender.
Regardless of what model or configuration you choose, be weary of the fender/frame contact points. I have used Velcro strips or invisi-frame to protect any rubbing or wear of the paint. I don’t mind the occasional rock scratch from riding. But a poorly installed fender that rubs a hole thru the paint …well that piss’s me off.
. Ask me how I know.
CordlezToaster
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Came across these ones, wondering if anyone has tried them.
Trek Rail Carbon & Alloy front & rear mudguard set - SICOMTBPRODUCTS
Trek Rail Carbon & Alloy front & rear mudguard set - SICOMTBPRODUCTS
I contacted these guys last year and explained how I needed to modify the rear Mucky Nutz fender in order to fit the Rail. This design seems to be perfectly molded to fit the Rail (and now some other bikes) but I’m not sure how well it fits or preforms. Definitely check these guys out.
CordlezToaster
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I bit the bullet and ordered from them. Will see how it goes.
JP-NZ
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I’ve got the rear one from sicomtb. It’s brilliant
CordlezToaster
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Nice, does it offer decent protection for the pivot area?, wondering if i also net to cut some rubber protection as well.
JP-NZ
E*POWAH Elite
It covers the pivot area, you won't need to worry unless you ride in extreme mud. Test fit it when it arrives and see what you think before cutting some neoprene
Nautical Biker
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For anyone with access to a 3D printer, check out this website for a downloadable file to make your own pivot guard protector: Printables. The designer is happy to give away the files for free and you can make a donation if you wish.
BCRDR
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I'd like to do the same fender setup on my Rail 7. Which muckynutz are you using for the rear?. We'll have to look around to see if mucky's are available in my area as everyone seem to carry mudhugger.
Looked at using 2 large front mudhuggers (one cut down to fit the rear) although the clearance looks minimal using the mudhugger version.
BTW, which rear tire size you running with your setup and thanks for the tips
29”.
It’s been a while but I think I used a front MuckyNuttz (modified) fender for the rear. It’s all I’ve used for the past few years. There’s a company in the UK (Simcon ? I think?) that make custom fit fenders. Those seem pretty good.
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RustyMojo
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I e got the sicomb one, which snapped a the cable tie holes, very disappointed really given the price.
BCRDR
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Good to know, thanks.
BCRDR
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Has anyone tried the SKS MUDROCKER REAR? Looks likes like it could be a decent setup.
Regardless of the model, style, length, position or colour, the most important thing for me is avoiding a perfectly sized rock getting jammed or crushed in the pivot to frame area. The sound or result can be horrific to the ever moving rear suspension.
There’s been a few good design’s to protect this area and it probably comes down to personal preference or overall looks. I don’t mind the mud-juice or vegetation building up in this area because it’s less likely to cause damage. The pivot bearings have been generally designed by the builders to reduce water or debris ingress. But the constantly moving frame on a full suspension for the pivot area is not addressed …I can only speculate why. It only takes a perfectly sized rock.
I don’t mind a mud strip up my back or the occasional small rock hitting my face (I wear eye protection), but that crunching noise coming from the pivot area stops me asap. I usually clean my bike with (shower setting) water only after a ride. I haven’t used the small flap over the pivot “gap” area which is attached to the lower seat tube because I’m somewhat concerned with the cleaning process after a ride. I’ve never tried it though. If water or debris can get in this area, I want it to easily leave this area. I’m not sure if a gentle washing would do this.
Anyways, I ride a MTB on dirt trails and things are gonna get dirty. I just need to maintain as best as I can.
There’s been a few good design’s to protect this area and it probably comes down to personal preference or overall looks. I don’t mind the mud-juice or vegetation building up in this area because it’s less likely to cause damage. The pivot bearings have been generally designed by the builders to reduce water or debris ingress. But the constantly moving frame on a full suspension for the pivot area is not addressed …I can only speculate why. It only takes a perfectly sized rock.
I don’t mind a mud strip up my back or the occasional small rock hitting my face (I wear eye protection), but that crunching noise coming from the pivot area stops me asap. I usually clean my bike with (shower setting) water only after a ride. I haven’t used the small flap over the pivot “gap” area which is attached to the lower seat tube because I’m somewhat concerned with the cleaning process after a ride. I’ve never tried it though. If water or debris can get in this area, I want it to easily leave this area. I’m not sure if a gentle washing would do this.
Anyways, I ride a MTB on dirt trails and things are gonna get dirty. I just need to maintain as best as I can.
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