Person killed in London by EMTB

[neils]

Just heard this on the news, I believe it was a lady pedestrian and it's the first person to of been killed by an EMTB, well certainly in this country anyway. Apparently the EMTB was found abandoned near by. No info on the bike was given.

 

[Stumpy]

Just heard this on the news, I believe it was a lady pedestrian and it's the first person to of been killed by an EMTB, well certainly in this country anyway. Apparently the EMTB was found abandoned near by. No info on the bike was given.

Very sad... Woman dies after being hit by electric bike in London

 

[Doomanic]

All is not as the headlines would have you believe;
CCTV of Dalston hit-and-run bike crash shows moment woman crossing road gets struck by cyclist
She stepped/ran out in front of him.

 

[Krisj]

That will be more ammunition for people against E-bikes ?
Back to what we should all be doing on any bike , that’s riding with respect towards others around us.

 

[neils]

I wonder if he was making a quick get away because he knew his bike wasn't within the 15.5mph limit. The bike looks like it might possibly be a DIY job???

 

[MattyB]

All is not as the headlines would have you believe;
CCTV of Dalston hit-and-run bike crash shows moment woman crossing road gets struck by cyclist
She stepped/ran out in front of him.

It does seem like she ran straight out, and I'm not sure how the Sun are so certain the lights were green for pedestrians, as just before the collision another bike goes across the crossing. Even so it is a horrible incident and awful behaviour by the cyclist not to stay at the scene. Let's all hope his bike hadn't been derestricted.

 

[neils]

It does seem like she ran straight out, and I'm not sure how the Sun are so certain the lights were green for pedestrians, as just before the collision another bike goes across the crossing. Even so it is a horrible incident and awful behaviour by the cyclist not to stay at the scene. Let's all hope his bike hadn't been derestricted.

That could be read as... The lights were green "for the traffic" as well though. It is unclear.

 

[Bongofish]

To be honest I wouldn't be botherd if they made it compulsory to pay some kind of insurance if it was reasonable say a £120 a year or something and they upped the limit to 20mph.

 

[neils]

Vey sad... Woman dies after being hit by electric bike in London

In this article from The Guradian it states it was an electric Specialized bike. From the video on the other clip where he's carrying it away it definitely doesn't look like a Spec bike! Does it???

 

[MattyB]

To be honest I wouldn't be botherd if they made it compulsory to pay some kind of insurance if it was reasonable say a £120 a year or something and they upped the limit to 20mph.

The European Commission already proposed exactly this back in May. Personally though I doubt it will be solely ebikes - it will either come in for all cycles, or be squished before it becomes law. Given the very low accident rates though it would be dramatically lower in price than you suggest (if you want 3rd party insurance now you can get £15m of cover as part of British Cycling Ride membership for £39).

 

[MattyB]

In this article from The Guradian it states it was an electric Specialized bike. From the video on the other clip where he's carrying it away it definitely doesn't look like a Spec bike! Does it???

I just took some screenshots and it is very difficult to tell:



It could be a big S on the front, or it could be the Raleigh symbol maybe?



In the second picture as he walks by it certainly does not look like a mid motor drive; there is not enough stuff in the bottom bracket area. There does appear to be a lot of stuff on the handlebars too; both these would suggest it could be an aftermarket conversion. And could this be a hub drive motor on the rear wheel in the very last frame of the video?

 

[Slowroller]

In this article from The Guradian it states it was an electric Specialized bike. From the video on the other clip where he's carrying it away it definitely doesn't look like a Spec bike! Does it???

Manhunt as pedestrian fights for her life after electric cyclist hit-and-run

It looks like he might have added a hub motor in the CCT video to an older mtb?

 

[Stumpy]

Manhunt as pedestrian fights for her life after electric cyclist hit-and-run

It looks like he might have added a hub motor in the CCT video to an older mtb?

So have we got two incidents here?

That's a different bloke from the photos above and it says he rode off?

or just bad journalism?

 

[Slowroller]

So have we got two incidents here?

That's a different bloke from the photos above and it says he rode off?

or just bad journalism?

Bad journalism I think. I just googled and came up with the earlier articles, it's the same incident.

 

[khorn]

Very sad news indeed

Here in Denmark ve have to classes of pedelecs, below 25 kph and no demands for insurance etc. the new thing is that we are allowed to go up to 45 kph but you then need insurance, wearing an approved helmet and lights on always. I have both and I’m paying around 120£/year for that.

Karsten

 

[R120]

There is a lot of full on Daily Mail journalism over this incident - from the sounds of it its irrelevant wheterh he was on an e-bike or not, just say headlines.

All the same lot of people riding bikes like idiots in London these days, i am travelling around the big smoke all day and it never ceases to amaze me the risk a lot of cyclists take with their lives and others.

Thoughts with the victims family,

 

[Eckythump]

Looks a bit like the original Specialized Turbo S.



And no, I don’t believe they were restricted, 500/700W hub motor.
Sorry for the lass and a shame for the rider if she did step out.

 

[jonathan horticulturist]

Sky News on the subject:

 

[Thewootts]

I was only saying to a friend of mine last week.. it's only a matter of time before a highway fatality involving a e-bike.

I expect he has an aftermarket throttle controlled motor on his bike. The kits are littered all over Ebay and Aliexpress for only a few hundred pounds.

Some of those hub drive kits are 900-1000w in power.

uneducated journalists could potentially spread a hell of a lot of poor information to the masses.
could be trouble for the future.

I've seen a few roady gopro videos catching throttle e-bikes wizzing down the road at 30mph plus with no helmet and not peddling.

 

[R120]

"The new silent killer in our streets" where would we be without the Daily Mail

Electric bikes may be green and trendy, but last week they claimed their first British victim | Daily Mail Online

 

[Doomanic]

What an absolute crock of shit!

 

[Thewootts]

"The new silent killer in our streets" where would we be without the Daily Mail

Electric bikes may be green and trendy, but last week they claimed their first British victim | Daily Mail Online

The "Daily Fail"

 

[njn]

Looks like an older specialized mtb converted with a throttle, rear hub motor and giant top tube battery.

 

[DEADMEAT]

To be honest I wouldn't be botherd if they made it compulsory to pay some kind of insurance if it was reasonable say a £120 a year or something and they upped the limit to 20mph.

How would that stop this sort thing from happening?

 

[Bongofish]

How would that stop this sort thing from happening?

Well it's not a great deal of use I a case where somebody has been killed apart from there family would be paid out. But more smaller accidents where they can make a claim and we are covered.

Also I think if we paid some kind of insurance the whole argument of e bikes being dangerous would stop as then they would be the safest insured vehicle on the road and probably the best vehicle for the environment and fitness (apart from a acoustic)

 

[DEADMEAT]

Well it's not a great deal of use I a case where somebody has been killed apart from there family would be paid out. But more smaller accidents where they can make a claim and we are covered.

Also I think if we paid some kind of insurance the whole argument of e bikes being dangerous would stop as then they would be the safest insured vehicle on the road and probably the best vehicle for the environment and fitness (apart from a acoustic)

Sucker! We can only hope people like you don't have a vote when the time comes. Just at least do us all a favor and keep your subservient mouth shut about it, so that those of us that want to fight this pointless bullshit should the need arise, aren't also fighting stupidity from our own ranks as well...

 

[Doomanic]

Dial it back a bit. There's no need to be so aggressive.

 

[DEADMEAT]

Dial it back a bit. There's no need to be so aggressive.

You're right, maybe i need insurance so i can cover compensation claims made against me for all the hurt little feelings.... Boo Hoo

Wind you're own neck in, i'm just speaking my mind, seems that doesn't go down well round here though, pansies!

 

[R120]

Adding homophobia to the needless aggression - way to double down.

Speaking your mind is a different concept to just hurling abuse.

 

[davosaurusrex]

Has Gary got another log in so he can really let us know what he thinks?

That Daily Fail article is sickening, I don't usually click on their links but this time felt the need to see what they had to say about it, despite myself I was surprised at the "journalistic" lows they are willing to sink to. And millions of people take them seriously and fill themselves full of indignant rage that they then feel empowered to share with the world......twats the lot of them.