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Gary

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so I screwed a few pallets together to make a step up? not sure what kind of setup it is
it's not a step up.
a step up is simply a jump where the landing lip is higher than the take of lip. They're great for learning tricks on as the landing being just below your wheels at the peak of their trajectory makes for a far less harsh landing than a traditional jump with the landing the same height as the take off.

You and the boy are clearly at very different stages here and it's cool that he's also joining in with you now so excuse him from most of what I'm about to say next.
I didn't really understand what your idea was with the slight kicker at the end of your pallets and a pointless ramp underneath it when you're going toi be landing on the flat grass past it. ie. you've basically built a small kicker drop rather to flat rather landing than a jump with a downwards sloping landing. (I totally get why you'd put it there for the lad). When you first set it up I thought you were going to attempt to clear the entire pallet line to the ramp at the end. (which certainly isn't out of the question for a properly experienced jumper)
although it will clearly increasing your confidence, building kicky jumps jumps with flat grassy landings isn't really going to help you much to learn good jumping technique.
That ramp you're putting at the end is too short and has a little too much of a transition for it to be very useful if you're going to be landing on it from any distance. (Even when your lad is riding it you can see it's more of a ropey spine to get off the pallets than any sort of useful landing ramp) Now that you're confident jumping further than a bikes length a much longer less curved landing would be far more beneficial to you. So if I were you I'd build a longer mellower landing ramp. then using your pallets as a safety landing platform in front of it you can gradually increase the distance from lip to landing? and fine tune your landings (trying to make your landings as smooth and accurate as possible) eventually taking pallets away to create a gap if you feel up to it?

Download this game for your phone (it's free) playing it for a few days will teach you everything you need to know about building/riding rythm sections (successive jumps with steeper lips and landings and bowls). The timing is absolutely pefect in comparison to riding a real bike on jumps like in the game.
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Genuinely!
it's a fun game too
 

Akiwi

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Any time on the bike trying new things is going to help you.. Keep it up.
My sons are both so good on bikes I look to them for instruction. The other day I told my son I want to try to learn the Nose wheelie 180. So I asked him to show me. Grrrr He made it look sooooooooo easy..... It is not.
 

dobbyhasfriends

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it's not a step up.
a step up is simply a jump where the landing lip is higher than the take of lip. They're great for learning tricks on as the landing being just below your wheels at the peak of their trajectory makes for a far less harsh landing than a traditional jump with the landing the same height as the take off.

You and the boy are clearly at very different stages here and it's cool that he's also joining in with you now so excuse him from most of what I'm about to say next.
I didn't really understand what your idea was with the slight kicker at the end of your pallets and a pointless ramp underneath it when you're going toi be landing on the flat grass past it. ie. you've basically built a small kicker drop rather to flat rather landing than a jump with a downwards sloping landing. (I totally get why you'd put it there for the lad). When you first set it up I thought you were going to attempt to clear the entire pallet line to the ramp at the end. (which certainly isn't out of the question for a properly experienced jumper)
although it will clearly increasing your confidence, building kicky jumps jumps with flat grassy landings isn't really going to help you much to learn good jumping technique.
That ramp you're putting at the end is too short and has a little too much of a transition for it to be very useful if you're going to be landing on it from any distance. (Even when your lad is riding it you can see it's more of a ropey spine to get off the pallets than any sort of useful landing ramp) Now that you're confident jumping further than a bikes length a much longer less curved landing would be far more beneficial to you. So if I were you I'd build a longer mellower landing ramp. then using your pallets as a safety landing platform in front of it you can gradually increase the distance from lip to landing? and fine tune your landings (trying to make your landings as smooth and accurate as possible) eventually taking pallets away to create a gap if you feel up to it?

Download this game for your phone (it's free) playing it for a few days will teach you everything you need to know about building/riding rythm sections (successive jumps with steeper lips and landings and bowls). The timing is absolutely pefect in comparison to riding a real bike on jumps like in the game.
Pumped: BMX
Genuinely!
it's a fun game too

its all good practise for me, every time I jump the bike at all I still seem to learn something.. the pallets were a good learning tool but the only thing they are good for now is so that Sam can practise his drops.. next step is to get to the builders merchants I reckon.
 

Gary

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Any time on the bike trying new things is going to help you..
Not always ;)
My sons are both so good on bikes I look to them for instruction. The other day I told my son I want to try to learn the Nose wheelie 180. So I asked him to show me. Grrrr He made it look sooooooooo easy..... It is not.
firstly that isn't a nose wheelie.
it's an endo
Endos are really pretty simple. (apply front brake firmly while shifting weight forwards)
once you have the endo sorted 180 endos actually are really easy to perform. just perform an endo while also doing a bar turn initiated body twist. looking where you're turning the bars will then help the turn and keep you balanced.
you're not doing it because you're not actually fully committing to the endo, nevermind the turn.
to learn to commit properly you need to reach the balance point on the front wheel.
I tend to believe going past it (and over the bars intentionally) is the best way to learn this. it'll also teach you how to bail safely (hop the bars)

a proper nose wheelie involves rolling along on the front wheel without using your brakes and these are incredibly difficult to learn.
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a stoppie is the similar but controled by the front brake (so much easier)
 

Akiwi

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Not always ;)
Even it is helping you learn what not to do?? ;-)

Thanks for your comments on the endo. I need to get out and practice.
After 50 something years of moving my weight back whilst braking, it is difficult to force myself to keep my weight forward!! You know.. "You can't teach an old dog new tricks"
I'll try to prove that saying wrong!!
 


GrahamPaul

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Pffffftt.. I wanted to watch it again to see .. but today France broke youtube ... MERD !

@Zimmerframe - not sure if you are suffering the same problem as us here in ES, but I have to load the videos directly in YouTube. When I click them in the Forum, I've been getting an error message to say that the vids can't be played.
 

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@Zimmerframe - not sure if you are suffering the same problem as us here in ES, but I have to load the videos directly in YouTube. When I click them in the Forum, I've been getting an error message to say that the vids can't be played.

Sadly not, though they've probably done that to control loading in some way. Here even in youtube they just bomb out with an obscure error message from the 1970's.
 

dobbyhasfriends

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Way nicer shaped jump (y)
Now focus on landing smoothly bro.
you're (still) doing the exact opposite.

9' radius as opposed to the first one which was 7' and way harsher.
im finding that the speed is the key to a good landing, if I get that right with the gap distance then it feels great, if i overshoot then its still better than flat but only just :D
 

Gary

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your take off is key to a good trajectory. correct trajectory is key to a good landing.
Get those right and finetuning what happens in the air is easy.
practice levelling out at the mid point and nosing in to the landing to match the the landing gradient. you should be aiming to land very slightly front wheel first, but so slightly that it'll almost feel like both wheels landing equally/evenly and as close to the top of the landing tranny without casing.
 

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In our parallel video service "Dobby does Decorations" : Learn how to make a 2.5 metre long decorative OSB lanceolate leaf to hang off your wall ....

Lanceolate : @steve_sordy presents "Lockdown word of the day".
 

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